Need some advice for a new gaming laptop

[FedeMax]

If you travel a lot or need it for work then fine, laptops are great. But for gaming? Waste of money.

Yeah that is the thing that you don't get. One of my friends have to travel Monday - Friday, he did not have the budget to spend $1000 for a gaming desktop and then another $1500 for a laptop. So he just have the laptop, so in you mind is he dumb because he does not have a desktop to play the game only on the weekends? There are many situations where a laptop is a must. Your point of view is a waste of time.

[Kyros]

Case in point, a 660m, which is a relatively high end card for laptops is comparable to that of a 9800 GTX....A card that is going on 7 years old.

And you just totally proved my point. A 9800 GTX Card can still run things like freaking Crysis at max settings. It was overkill back then and its still considered a High End Card nowadays. Besides, Gaming Laptops are running the 770m nowadays.


I don't quite think you understand how the GPU market works. Just because it was released back then doesn't mean it is useless now. Take a look at the high end GPU's here: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

You'll find the 660m in there, along with the 9800, the 770m and even the freaking 880m. They are all listed as high-end cards and more than capable of running every single modern game at high settings. Most of them are way overkill right now, and will outlive what the gaming industry can throw at them for a very long time.

I mean If you where making a rack right now, you could buy the brand new Radeon R9 295X2 right now for some extreme gaming. I can assure you that 5 years from now it'll still be listed as a High-end Video card (Or a class 1, depending on which site you like to check your benchmarks); and able to run pretty much anything. Heck, anything from the High-Mid card range right now could run FFXIV smoothly.

So yes, you are overestimating gaming rigs. To give you an idea, my old laptop had a freaking 220m and it can still play Tera and FFXIV just fine.

And if I'm wandering outside of my room, why would I need a laptop? I do this thing called interacting with other people when I go out, not drag my laptop along and play games and ignore my friends. It's like going to a restaurant and staring at your phone. Put the damn thing in your pocket.

All my friends are gamers. We like to get together for LAN parties. We can do that because our amazing gaming rigs are portable. Some things are just not the same trough steam/mumble. I assumed a supposedly pro-gamer like you would understand that.

[Kerberon]

And if I'm wandering outside of my room, why would I need a laptop? I do this thing called interacting with other people when I go out, not drag my laptop along and play games and ignore my friends. It's like going to a restaurant and staring at your phone. Put the damn thing in your pocket.

If you travel a lot or need it for work then fine, laptops are great. But for gaming? Waste of money.

Or you could be disabled like me and sitting in a normal desk type area starts causing you pain. I play laying down on a bed, can't do that with a desktop.

[AlyssaFhey]

Build a desktop instead, it'll be cheaper and better performance.

[Ransu]

And you just totally proved my point. A 9800 GTX Card can still run things like freaking Crysis at max settings. It was overkill back then and its still considered a High End Card nowadays. Besides, Gaming Laptops are running the 770m nowadays.

9800 GTX is NOT considered a high end video card anymore. That card is going on 7 years old. Anyone who knows anything about PC hardware would laugh in your face if you said that.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,2.html there's a simple benchmark between a 9800 and a mid range 660.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-...eForce-GTX-680 9800 vs 680 which is what i have.

The difference is night and day. To even compare the two let alone even consider a 7 year old card to be high end is laughable...

Also...crysis came out in 2007....and it was a poorly optimized game at that. It's hardly the benchmarking beast that it once was. GPU's now a days don't even break a sweat running that game.

I don't quite think you understand how the GPU market works. Just because it was released back then doesn't mean it is useless now. Take a look at the high end GPU's here: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Do...do you not know how to read passmark scores? Do you not realize how terrible a score of 900 is? That is below minimum standards.

Yeah that is the thing that you don't get. One of my friends have to travel Monday - Friday, he did not have the budget to spend $1000 for a gaming desktop and then another $1500 for a laptop. So he just have the laptop, so in you mind is he dumb because he does not have a desktop to play the game only on the weekends? There are many situations where a laptop is a must. Your point of view is a waste of time.

No I get it quite well, its you that does not get it. Getting a laptop specifically for gaming IS 100% a waste of money. People who travel a lot for work are what you would call the minority. If you travel a lot, that's fine, laptops are useful there. But in general? No, its a waste of money, especially a gaming laptop.

[kukurumei]

9800 GTX is NOT considered a high end video card anymore. That card is going on 7 years old. Anyone who knows anything about PC hardware would laugh in your face if you said that.



Do...do you not know how to read passmark scores? Do you not realize how terrible a score of 900 is? That is below minimum standards.

Sorta sorta. an intel hd 5000 scores 600-700 and it can run ARR at min settings with 30 fps or so. But yes crap of the earth in terms of "gaming" to have a score of 900, an iris pro is better then that, and that's a integrated with better life expectancy.

Gaming laptops are gaming laptops. They are crap, and expensive, and only for those that absolutely must need it, and are willing to pay for it.

Again life expectancy is a material problem. No matter how you engineer it, it's a simply a matter of not enough material, not enough space, and too much environmental problems.