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    ispano's Avatar
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    There's nothing selfish about it. I'm doing my job. DPSing as a healer is going the extra mile for your party, whether you think they should or not. It just so happens that Eos and Selene are capable of handling all the healing under certain circumstances and I'm going to take advantage of that how I see fit. If I feel like popping cleric stance and spamming ruin to help dps a little, cool. If I feel like watching youtube in the middle of fights because Eos happens to be more healing than the party needs then I'm going to do that.

    I'm sorry that you're offended because you're too "principled" to slack in a harmless fashion.
    Offended? Never said I was offended. But yes, it's selfish. 1/4 sees that they can get away with putting in less or even no effort compared the their team mates. They then take advantage of that. It's selfish. I never really have a problem with people being that way, I just leave if I think it's an issue and don't make a stink about it. What I see as the real problem is people saying it's not selfish or whatnot, when it is. Be honest about it, don't try to prop yourself up as the innocent.
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    Last edited by ispano; 06-10-2014 at 01:29 PM.

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    Player Virgil's Avatar
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    Virgil Cesius
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Offended? Never said I was offended. But yes, it's selfish. 1/4 sees that they can get away with putting in less or even no effort compared the their team mates. They then take advantage of that. It's selfish. I never really have a problem with people being that way, I just leave if I think it's an issue and don't make a stink about it. What I see as the real problem is people saying it's not selfish or whatnot, when it is. Be honest about it, don't try to prop yourself up as the innocent.
    And what am I guilty of, exactly? Taking advantage of something to my benefit with no real detriment to other party members? That I can do my job with less to no effort compared to my party members and they can't?

    Is it unfair? Probably. Is it lazy? Sure. But selfish? No. I'm not robbing the party of anything but my unneeded, undivided attention because Eos does that for me.

    It's not my fault that it isn't possible to auto tank or auto dps effectively and expecting me to work harder for no real reason other than "I want you to work hard just because I have to in order to be relevant and useful!" is the real selfish action here.
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    Lughna Ravensworn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    And what am I guilty of, exactly? Taking advantage of something to my benefit with no real detriment to other party members? That I can do my job with less to no effort compared to my party members and they can't?

    Is it unfair? Probably. Is it lazy? Sure. But selfish? No. I'm not robbing the party of anything but my unneeded, undivided attention because Eos does that for me.

    It's not my fault that it isn't possible to auto tank or auto dps effectively and expecting me to work harder for no real reason other than "I want you to work hard just because I have to in order to be relevant and useful!" is the real selfish action here.
    If playing instead of afking is your idea of working harder, you might have the wrong recreational activity.
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    Player Virgil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    If playing instead of afking is your idea of working harder, you might have the wrong recreational activity.
    I have plenty of other opportunities to "play" when I'm on other jobs. But if I could tank or dps and get up to take a poop at the same time I would.
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