Arcanists and their spells

[Urthdigger]

Yes, but I had said Thaumaturge and Conjurer, not Black Mage and White Mage. Granted, conjurers don't traditionally use personal aether, but it is shown that it is possible through the conjurer quest

My comment was unrelated to conjurer/thaumaturge. Rather, it was stated that blm/whm are forbidden because they draw aether from the land, and caused an umbral era by their overuse. Given that those two jobs are noteworthy for that, I find it likely that all other classes use personal aether for most of their power.

[Wadoka]

Given that those two jobs are noteworthy for that, I find it likely that all other classes use personal aether for most of their power.

Tricky, that.

Though we've seen from the example of Sylphie and Sylphie's mother, that's certainly possible, we've also seen that even a gifted magus doesn't battery enough "personal" Aether to sustain their life processes through extended drawing on their own stored reserves.

Now given, people who can learn the Way of the Arcanist learn Aetherflow, which allows them to store more Aether in their selves (the mouseover for an active Aetherflow reads "Aether is gathering in the body") It's doubtful even a Heroic Arcanist (us) could long survive without extremely careful husbanding of their Aether.

I see the end result of an Arcanist running out of MP, being, a dead Arcanist, sooner or later.

But to offer a counter, I believe Arcanima to be an art of Subtlety as I mentioned above. Arcanist effects are not, for the most part, loud and showy. Through diligent study and careful refinement of formulae, the Arcanist has learned to generate maximum effect from minimum inputs.

Imagine, it doesn't take a lot of Aether to start a corruption or corrosion process... all things strive towards maximum disorder already. It only takes the right lever in the right place, to paraphrase Aristotle. Now, going the other way? Curing, Resurrection? That's a walk on the wild side, to fight against Entropy, to convince it to look elsewhere for a bit...

[Wolfandre]

My comment was unrelated to conjurer/thaumaturge. Rather, it was stated that blm/whm are forbidden because they draw aether from the land, and caused an umbral era by their overuse. Given that those two jobs are noteworthy for that, I find it likely that all other classes use personal aether for most of their power.

You cannot assign traits to one class based on the specific details given about a completely different job. That would be like saying that all cats meow and since all other animals don't meow, then they must be dogs.

I won't, however, fight the base line of your argument, since we aren't explicitly told where, exactly, arcanists draw their power from.

[Urthdigger]

You cannot assign traits to one class based on the specific details given about a completely different job. That would be like saying that all cats meow and since all other animals don't meow, then they must be dogs.

I won't, however, fight the base line of your argument, since we aren't explicitly told where, exactly, arcanists draw their power from.

A closer example to what I said would be "Meowing is a defining trait of cats. One can thus assume other animals do not meow." Which is a logical assumption.

[gornotck]

Like many assumptions, it's wrong, though.
Forgot, though, that the ink in arcanists' books is made of blood, though. Blood and precious metals.