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  1. #271
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    SuzakuCMX's Avatar
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    Peach Parfait
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    Oh, for anyone new to the forums: people here QQ about absolutely every single change that happens, but most people in-game have the opposite view or are completely indifferent.

    So take the forum's "majority vocal opinion" with a grain of salt.
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  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    Considering the context of his statement, it's pretty obvious he's implying that his preferred way of playing the game requires more intelligence/requires more tactics/is more difficult than those whose views are in favor of the enmity system. All of which support the case of him thinking he's in some way, shape, or form, superior to them.

    If you still believe otherwise, I'm wide open to suggestions as to what kind of players he implies us to be, that he be so adamant about not wanting to play with us. Because he thinks we just want ezmode pew pew? Lol.
    You taking it personal because you like the icons and immediately jump to the conclusion that i think you are inferior. If you must take this on a personal level, sure be my guest. I don't care about you at all or if you are inferior. I don't even know you.

    I care about the community going down the #$%@ because of changes like this.

    Now was that CLEAR enough for both of you? Let me say it again: I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU OR ANYONE BEING INFERIOR OR SUPERIOR.
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    Is 20 dmg for the hit like 30 dmg if a RNG shoots?
    No DRG for party, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?
    How i mine for fish?

  3. #273
    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Carpe Noctum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    kind of pointless to me, almost like they need to tell you everything at this point, its exact level, if it agros, and now how much agro you have. Emenity in FFXI was just obvious, any halfway decent player understood how it worked and didnt need things like this.
    This design is catered toward the lowest common denominator of the general public in order to get more subscriptions (which is GOOD business sense).

    It will most likely be a toggle, so that those who are capable/prefer, will be able to have more of a challenge - and those are are not capable/do not prefer will have a easier time understanding their enmity levels at all times.

    Easy game design mechanics are not placed in games to ensure players like you have no fun, but to ensure even the youngest/simplest minds can have fun along with players like you - IE: More subscriptions.

    Just ask SE for a toggle, and then you will retain your "personal" game challenge.
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    Last edited by Crica; 07-07-2011 at 09:12 AM.

  4. #274
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    Snuf's Avatar
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    Cynthor Canicus
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    Ragnarok
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    I just wanna throw out that so far, the only time i've seen enmity be a problem is if a dps throws out a high amount of burst damage, or if a healer decides to buff or debuff too much in the middle of a fight.

    I'd appreciate any change that improves the way debuffing and buffing works with regards to enmity, the bar is just a bonus, if you don't wanna look at it, don't, some people appreciate the assistance though. A little bit of certainty can go a long way to helping improve the teamwork of a group if they can communicate enmity levels.
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  5. #275
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    -1 to aggro indicator/mob level/bullshit hate indicator.

    -1 to idiots who rely on the answers to be given to them in order to play a fracking game.

    -1 TO THE LAZY MOFOs WHO ARE RUINING THIS GAME!

    Too bad Davy Crockett didn't have access to aggro icons and mob levels as well as hate indicators.. he probably could have taken out a lot more bears on his adventures!
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  6. #276
    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    -1 to aggro indicator/mob level/bullshit hate indicator.

    -1 to idiots who rely on the answers to be given to them in order to play a fracking game.

    -1 TO THE LAZY MOFOs WHO ARE RUINING THIS GAME!

    Too bad Davy Crockett didn't have access to aggro icons and mob levels as well as hate indicators.. he probably could have taken out a lot more bears on his adventures!
    Translation - I don't want anyone to enjoy a game unless they play the game the way I enjoy playing it and I am going to use REAL LIFE as a reference as to how a FANTASY GAME should be played by everyone in the entire world.

    Too bad, SE would like to have allot of subscriptions, so they are going to add game mechanics in the game that will appeal to a more diversity of players instead of just a few players like yourself.

    Toggle it off if you do not want to use it and your problem will be solved.

    Have a nice day.
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    Last edited by Crica; 07-07-2011 at 09:43 AM.

  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Oh, for anyone new to the forums: people here QQ about absolutely every single change that happens, but most people in-game have the opposite view or are completely indifferent.

    So take the forum's "majority vocal opinion" with a grain of salt.
    That grain of salt is what SE listen to, the peeps in-game have no say unless they come here.
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  8. #278
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    Fine by me aslong as I don't have to wait until January for a on/off toggle.
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  9. #279
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    That grain of salt is what SE listen to, the peeps in-game have no say unless they come here.
    You're forgetting data they collect from game activity.
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  10. #280
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    Jinrya Geki
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    I like the Enmity bar idea. Just hope it's not too big, and flashy.
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