Unreasonable expectation on Blm in t7?

[SarcasmMisser]

Suck it up princess. You can DPS while standing behind the add, you can save procs, you can use swiftcast. I play BLM and while 2 shrieks will hurt my DPS I'd have no problem keeping up. Reporting people will get you nowhere, they won't get punished at all and you will still do bad dps unless rng lets you just sit there the whole fight.

[iRanOverYourMom]

You can tell pretty easily if a dps is slacking with the enmity bar. Unless they actually stated numbers you have no basis for reporting.

quelling strikes would like to have a word with you.

[PArcher]

2.1 Ex primals?

An equally geared and skilled Monk does good dps for Titan and Ifrit.

Garuda was not good for Melee's I admit, but again a good melee player pulled their weight.

That's the key...a GOOD player can do good DPS regardless of how 'bad' content is for their job. Remember how many PFs for Garuda and Ifrit locked melee out completely back in 2.1? Most wouldn't let even good melee who could do the fights in.

Bad players, however, cause other players to lock certain jobs out of content (in PF, leave DFs if they see said jobs...), which hurts the good players even more than the job stigmas themselves do

[NyneAlexander]

Suck it up princess. You can DPS while standing behind the add, you can save procs, you can use swiftcast. I play BLM and while 2 shrieks will hurt my DPS I'd have no problem keeping up. Reporting people will get you nowhere, they won't get punished at all and you will still do bad dps unless rng lets you just sit there the whole fight.

depending on your strat, and how your tank positions medusa-head, you may not be able to reach the boss from behind the renaud. With the way my static does this fight, my dps would get destroyed if I ate two back to back shrieks. What good is saving a proc if you can't reach anything from where you have to eat the shriek?

Granted my static understands, for the most part, that a.) one bad round on T7 is not indicative of any one DPS's output and b.) that this fight is only a DPS race on paper. We've never hit enrage for this, and at times we stop dps on purpose to make phases line up.

[scarebearz]

Remember how many PFs for Garuda and Ifrit locked melee out completely back in 2.1? Most wouldn't let even good melee who could do the fights in.

I do remember this for Garuda, but why would people not allow melee for Ifrit Ex?

Melee for Ifrit was almost always a required class, due to their LB, but also for their damage.

I also remember some refusing to take BLM's for Titan Ex.

When I compare classes I'm assuming they are all well geared and played well, hence BLM is imo the weakest class for current end game.

depending on your strat, and how your tank positions medusa-head, you may not be able to reach the boss from behind the renaud. With the way my static does this fight, my dps would get destroyed if I ate two back to back shrieks. What good is saving a proc if you can't reach anything from where you have to eat the shriek?

You only need to be in position for the last couple of seconds on the timer, so you have a fair time before to let off procs/flare as your getting into position but still within range.

[SarcasmMisser]

He was talking about the adds, the off tank has to move in for shriek too so there is no way he won't be able to reach the add. Not to mention that is not far into the fight, and with correct CD usage his DPS should be still coming down from his raging rotation. There is no reason to have bad DPS at that point, and BLMs can carry the burst on the adds so a BLM that isn't bursting the deathdancers for whatever reason is just being neglectful of one of the few things he brings to a fight. You are not punished by shriek any more than any melee job, there are things you can do to mitigate it, you only have to move in you don't have to move back to position right away. I'm glad BLMs get punished by fights like this because they really need it slammed into them that they need to wait for GCDs to move whenever possible.

[Nabian]

report them for using parsers.

^ This guy...is an idiot....

On a more realistic note, I would love to see SE implement a quest that you have to complete prior to being admitted access to coil 2. Something along the lines where you have to reach a minimum dps threshold based upon your jobs capabilities or properly time your heals/defensive cooldowns, before being allowed to even enter coil. I'm guessing 350-400 ish on a stationary target but that's just a guesstimate (since parcers are illegal and all we have no way of knowing the legitimacy of that value).

[LunarEmerald]

quelling strikes would like to have a word with you.

Nobody uses quelling more than once and only at the beginning of the fight. If you're 8th in enmity, you can't blame quelling strikes.

If there's a melee dps and they're not 3rd or 4th in enmity. They're doing bad dps. Assuming a dragoon isn't using elusive jump.

If you're a dps and you're in 6th or above then either everybody else is awesome or you're bad.

[Rosy]

Nobody uses quelling more than once and only at the beginning of the fight. If you're 8th in enmity, you can't blame quelling strikes.

If there's a melee dps and they're not 3rd or 4th in enmity. They're doing bad dps. Assuming a dragoon isn't using elusive jump.

If you're a dps and you're in 6th or above then either everybody else is awesome or you're bad.

You may not, others of us do...it's called "aggro management" but then I see you're a bard

[LunarEmerald]

You may not, others of us do...it's called "aggro management" but then I see you're a bard

lol aggro management. You don't need to manage aggro after the initial pull. If you're using quelling after the pull and not on adds then you're wasting time. Which is a dps loss. Once a tank establishes hate, their lead exponentially grows. You never need to quell again.

If you're doing this then I see why you have bad dps.