Simple fix to trading?

[Epistane]

To all the peopole saying it's because of queue times.

Yes we all know this. Win trading was very rare/uncommon back in the original rank 30 grind.. but queue's weren't as bad then.. As the months have gone by the only thing that has happened are queues getting worse. This is NOT a QQ/condemning post about win-trading but rather suggestions for fixes.

But since it has been bought up, lets take a different look at how to fix everything then.

1. Put all datacenters together? In order to fix queues (not sure how this will work, I remember someone saying that if they do this it will just make server instances more laggy/buggy/etc?) correct me if I'm wrong
2. Remove matchmaking (not sure how this will work either, it's pretty much made queues worse for higher ranks but I guess it's helped out the lower ranks somewhat?)

ANY suggestions are good, even about queue times since it would indirectly help with trading

Also to the increased exp/marks... Ya'll forget that marks/exp used to pretty much be half of what we get now solo (pre 2.15). And it hasn't really helped q times, altho I did take a break for a month or two so I'm not 100% sure. PLUS it's been stated by a mod in general forums that they don't have any plans to make adjustments to marks/exp sooooo yeah...

[tehomegaking]

1. Put all datacenters together? In order to fix queues (not sure how this will work, I remember someone saying that if they do this it will just make server instances more laggy/buggy/etc?) correct me if I'm wrong
2. Remove matchmaking (not sure how this will work either, it's pretty much made queues worse for higher ranks but I guess it's helped out the lower ranks somewhat?)

These suggestions are great, and there are many similar in this section. But everything inside here (pvp section) seems to fall on deaf ears, I'd really suggest someone to make a thread in the suggestions forum. Removing the match-making system is the number one priority to fix these (at times) ridiculous queues.

[KiLLFaTe]

To all the peopole saying it's because of queue times.

1. Put all datacenters together? In order to fix queues (not sure how this will work, I remember someone saying that if they do this it will just make server instances more laggy/buggy/etc?) correct me if I'm wrong
2. Remove matchmaking (not sure how this will work either, it's pretty much made queues worse for higher ranks but I guess it's helped out the lower ranks somewhat?)

1. The datacenter would fix it, if it was just for PvP. The amount of load on a server just for one specific worldzone open is not that much. And if it is..they are running shitass hardware..
2. As far as I know, no one said remove matchmaking. The MMR has to be there, the fact is that for the amount of players that are currently playing...the algorithm that Square is using, does not work.

[Sounders]

As it is obvious, the only way to reduce the queue times is to increase the number of players. And the way to do that is to introduce gimmicks that would invite more people to play PVP.
Unless we get more people to play, queue times will always be the same.

Now since we're in the business with suggestions. Maybe some of you can make suggestions on how to entice more people to do PVP. I don't think the unlocking of all abilities at Rank 1 is working. Casual players who did a few PVP back are still not interested despite the changes from latest patch we thought was good.

So I'll stand by what I said before. Make PVP more rewarding. A lot of players were excited with the looks of r40 gear, most of them tried to do some PVP because of this. But when they found out that it would need thousands of wins before you could wear these, they lost interest and decided that it's not worth it, and thus never did PVP again. Therefore, we're back again to the old problem of not enough players in PVP, which again results to longer queue times.

1. Put all datacenters together? In order to fix queues (not sure how this will work, I remember someone saying that if they do this it will just make server instances more laggy/buggy/etc?) correct me if I'm wrong

I'm not sure, but I thought different datacenters mean different hardware. If I remember correctly, a single hardware cannot handle all of the instances, that's why they separated them into different hardware.
Now, if SE would make a datacenter dedicated to PVP, I imagine instances would take longer as data has to be transferred to PVP datacenter. And of course additional datacenter would mean additional hardware and additional cost.
Let's just admit that SE doesn't really care about PVP in this game. I find it hard to believe that they are making an effort to spend just to improve PVP.

2. Remove matchmaking (not sure how this will work either, it's pretty much made queues worse for higher ranks but I guess it's helped out the lower ranks somewhat?)

Of course this benefits higher ranks only. Newbies are again back to their losing ways. Another one sided suggestion IMO.

[tehomegaking]

As it is obvious, the only way to reduce the queue times is to increase the number of players. And the way to do that is to introduce gimmicks that would invite

more people to play PVP.
Unless we get more people to play, queue times will always be the same.

There is quite a lot of people playing now. Everyday I'm playing pvp a good few hours, and though I see the same people, it usually takes around 6/7 (on a good day) games or so to see them again, all the while we're both doing games every 5-10 mins. When 2.2 (or whatever it was) hit when the matchmaking was first implemented the queue times were insane (I'd say one game every 40-90 mins), and you'd see the same people every second game or so. The new armors and pvp skill changes have really brought a lot of people back to pvp. The only thing holding pvp back now is the messed up match making system.

Of course this benefits higher ranks only. Newbies are again back to their losing ways. Another one sided suggestion IMO.

No it isn't. The matchmaking system is broken and has been since implementation. Regardless of rank, you will constantly be paired with low rank members. I am high ranked and the vast majority of my games are with beginners. All the matchmaking system does is increase both of our queues. And not to mention it bugs out over and over and over. This happens to everyone regularly, and they sit in queues for 30 mins wondering why they can't get a game.. thinking pvp is not active atm, when it's actually in prime time.

[rappa]

I try to play 20-40 matches each day.
1/10 games are with high rank or similar than me. I am rank 24.

9/10 are with low rank or haven't got rank 20

The most i see is randoms player earns the achievement "Hungry Like a Wolf I”

[Epistane]

I try to play 20-40 matches each day.
1/10 games are with high rank or similar than me. I am rank 24.

9/10 are with low rank or haven't got rank 20

The most i see is randoms player earns the achievement "Hungry Like a Wolf I”

Whenever I play I usually get queued with a healer and it's his first match =( , then the other side gets a rank 40 healer ( fellow primal dcers know who Im talking about ) to balance out the ranks QQ

[Pibz]

When 2.2 (or whatever it was) hit when the matchmaking was first implemented the queue times were insane (I'd say one game every 40-90 mins), and you'd see the same people every second game or so. The new armors and pvp skill changes have really brought a lot of people back to pvp. The only thing holding pvp back now is the messed up match making system.

No, the simple fact is/was the overwhelming majority of the population of players in this game is/was not interested in wolves den pvp from the moment they tried out a few matches when 2.1 hit.
When 2.2 hit this was aggravated by the fact that new pve content came out and even people who usually pvped didn't bother to pvp anymore as they were:
1- Too busy with pve stuff.
2- Waiting for 2.25, which was supposed to be "big pvp patch" to come out.
When 2.25 came out, the increase in people pvping again was highly noticeable by the fact that the queue came back from the dead(for a while it got really active), which alone proves that it isn't the matchmaking that's broken.
And now again, 2.28 came out, people were getting instant queues. Of course if you are higher rank than the average population(which isn't really that big a average) you'll get slower queue times as there isn't that many players to put against you to make a fair match.

Regardless of rank, you will constantly be paired with low rank members. I am high ranked and the vast majority of my games are with beginners.

Of course if there aren't enough people within your rank it tries to even out the average between the 2 competing groups meaning that high rank players will often get paired with low rank ones, this is the basis of matchmaking......

And yeah it bugs out, but it bugged out way before matchmaking was introduced. Now it just seems worse cause you're high rank and since there's less of us we get the short stick until more people rank up.

Simple solution(to crappy high rank queues ): Make the middle(20s and i90) rank and gear,as i90 and r20s is still highly competitive vs i100 and r30s while the latter still has a decent advantage, way more accessible so we don't have to deal with long queues only to get gimped players 60%+ of the time.