I don't understand...

[Foo01]

That goes both ways, you know. What's easier, barking at the healer and DPS telling them to adapt to your lack of enmity management and having three people expecting to adjust to you, who can't perform your role, or realize that you're losing enmity on group pulls and use Flash more than once?

The issue started up when they started to try to tell the tank want to do. The tank was not the one instigating the issue. Sure his skills may be limited or it could be that he was ungergeared. Who knows. But unsolicited advice will often end up with a mess.

Sadly the argument repeatedly put forth is that the three players should adapt to the poor player. Giving any advice is elitist.

It is not sad to have to compensate for their limitations. It is all part and parcel of playing together. Wiping is also part of playing the game and if wipes never happen then a important aspect of why any game is fun is lost. Giving advice is not elitist, ordering people around, even if you know better, however is elitist, because no one has selected you to the leader of the party.

It would be nice if they deferred to a more experienced player, but too many times they are clueless about anything and everything. And that is why the DF and PF are there for them to learn and figure this out. Even if you blurt out the answer for them, they still won't register it because sometimes they don't even know what the question/problem is.

Cut them some slack, go slower. Play for fun, don't stress yourself out or them.

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In Stone Vigil, with all the patrols, you usually WILL have to Flash more than twice. All you have to do is press one key/button that does not even break your combo.

You can separate out the patrol from the mobs. It just need you to go slower. Wait for the patrol to come to the fore and then pull just the patrol. Clear that first then move on to the next mob. It is not that hard, just be patient, go slower.

Even on Brayflox HM, it is ok to pull 4 mobs or 2, if the healer or tank can't handle more. It is Brayflox HM and not Brayflox SR.