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  1. #11
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Ex- Primals are rehashed and completely uninteresting to me.

    Levi is new.. and King Moggle Mog Moggly Moggle is always fun.

    Skip the boring junk and play the fun stuff. Sounds good to me. If you enjoy beating your head against boring insta-kill content, no one will stop you.
    This. Also the fact that the new primals are completely unrelated story-wise to the first EX ones meant they should have never been a requirement to begin with.
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  2. #12
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    Yumi Umi
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    Good move SE!
    The titan ex rants will finally drop quite a bit but on the other hand i wonder about levi ex threads.
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  3. #13
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    Juni Esura
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    levi is more difficult to heal than titan imo. dunno about ifrit
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  4. #14
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Not really a nerf letting people skip the content. But I would also say Titan is easier then Levithan mainly because Levithan spinning dives and circles are random, everything titan does is scripted and you can do him all day long and not ever mess up. Levithan its much easier to get hit because there is a chance you won't turn your camera in the right spot.
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  5. #15
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by jars View Post
    levi is more difficult to heal than titan imo. dunno about ifrit
    Ifrit is a cakewalk to heal personally. And I'd rank Levi up there as well. Titan is a pain to heal only because ppl can't seem to dodge plumes and bombs with any degree of certainty so mp goes out the window for constant rezes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Not really a nerf letting people skip the content. But I would also say Titan is easier then Levithan mainly because Levithan spinning dives and circles are random, everything titan does is scripted and you can do him all day long and not ever mess up. Levithan its much easier to get hit because there is a chance you won't turn your camera in the right spot.
    Stacked plumes and bombs will lead to more deaths than dives and circles though. Dmg in Levi X isn't much to talk about either.
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    Last edited by SDaemon; 06-06-2014 at 06:47 AM.

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    Ranulf Squires
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    Enough people couldn't beat Titan I guess, lol.
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  7. #17
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Fights like these should be done of the challenge and satisfaction, with the loot being a nice bonus reward. Requiring that players have to beat certain gates in order to see more content is a bad idea that will force them away from the content, if not the game entirely. There needs to be a means for casual players, or those who struggle to meet the requirements of certain content, to be able to continue on and not be left behind. They, and others, can tackle that older content later when they feel more prepared for it, simply for the challenge and the fun. Y'know, because this is a game and it is meant to be fun for you.
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  8. #18
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Not really a nerf letting people skip the content. But I would also say Titan is easier then Levithan mainly because Levithan spinning dives and circles are random, everything titan does is scripted and you can do him all day long and not ever mess up. Levithan its much easier to get hit because there is a chance you won't turn your camera in the right spot.
    There's actually a trick with this for DPS and tanks. Stand near the center of the edge of the platform on the shorter side (side of and opposite of the generator thing), your camera zoomed all the way out behind you. You will see either the spout behind you or ahead of you, whichever side he will spinning dive across. Move to the opposite part to dodge it. Sadly this won't help against that annoying spinning dive coming from the corners, but it's an 80% success rate for helping you dodge. Also, his circles are not random, he has 2 aiming at the healers while he's out of the water (smaller ones), and several giant ones he aims at DPS.

    It's a lot easier for me to do him than Titan EX. Titan EX I'm constantly on edge, expecting the latency to kill me. In Leviathan Ex, I'm calm and collected, doing my job, knowing that latency will not get me killed in any way. In fact, if I were to label the difficulty of the primals from what I've seen as DPS (ignoring good king mog since I have yet to do that one), this is the chart:

    Garuda -> Ifrit -> Leviathan -> Titan
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  9. #19
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    Hayley Westenra
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    This isn't really a nerf. The Primals are not having their powers reduced whatsoever. It's just that the RESTRICTION for challenging them is gone.
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  10. #20
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Just my opinion I never get hit by Titans mechanics, Leviathan I may get hit once a run. Although you will not wipe when getting hit by levithan just get a stack that eventually falls off, titan is a fight that it is much easier for me to never get hit by anything because I can see the whole arena. I don't have lag issues ever.
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