duty finder isn't there for you to spirit bond

[Blackcanary]

How is this harassment?

Alot of invisible rules in this game I notice.

True that invisible rules made by idiotic people.

[Welsper59]

lol not really.

Recently I also had a party where rest of them are still even wear their original afs and the dungeon is AK. They do manage quite well up till Anantaboga when they wiped. Teached them how to properly do the fight and won on 2nd attempt. Nailed 3 commendations and got my gears SBed too. So it's a win-win to me. XD

So I ask you this: If you claim I'm taking advantage, then why I still got commendation? I'm not even asking them to give/trade them. lol

Like I said, things happened in US/EU server are pretty much different than JP. More drama >< Less drama. lol

For the commendations thing, they're somewhat meaningless. I, and a number of people, tend to just hand them out for the hell of it. There's also a challenge bonus for doing it. Commendations don't mean all that much to most people, unless you're trying for the mount. Plus you helped your group apparently with informing them of what to do, so that's always a plus. Again though, being in low end lv50 gear and being in crafting gear is a totally different matter. You're 100% wrong if you think that a tank in crafting gear for SB purposes (and ignoring any ridiculous attempts at materia melded to tank with) is going to perform anywhere near as well as a tank in entry AF. Dat 2-2.5k HP and minimal defense lol.

I don't think you're understanding what I mean by the "using" bit though. You're relying on the fact that only you will take advantage of crafting gear equipped to SB with. If everyone was to do it, you probably wouldn't make it far... at all. I'm pretty sure drama would ensue if that were to happen, regardless of what region you're playing on. Again, you're only looking at it from a "my own benefit" perspective, rather than what's actually going on and what would happen if others were to do what you do. Basically, if roles (such as tank), don't have the liberty of SB'ing crafting gear despite actually having the ability to do so, it's basically you taking advantage of them. More power to you if you see nothing wrong with that, but just know that you're still taking advantage of others.

*edit: I take some of this back. You seem sensible enough about the matter with your previous boss gear switch comment, but I still don't think you'd really care much for dungeons to SB with if it became a norm that every role switch to SB craft gear and having to pull trash one (group) at a time... and possibly wiping each time LOL.

[indira]

remove ilvl, problem solved.

it the biggest thing dividing the community, it has no point at all.
there is posts talking about people sucking at there jobs they might have gear but fail as gamers. other people might be good at the fight but cant do it due to lack of ilvl on a job there FC needs at that point in time.


spirit bonding is a 1.0 feature yet the use it in ARR and its causing people to get pissed they change nothing about the system other then the stats on the materia. in 1.0 there was no ilvl so there was no penalty for doing it in group. all gear lv45+ was usable in 1.0 for your endgame, grand company, crafted, dungeon gear.

i refuse to believe yoshida is a "hardcore gamer" this game is becoming a cluster-F of grinding gear you spend more time getting up to date then actually doing content. look at atma grind fates till you wanna kill your self then grind out myth tomestones. you have people at ilvl90+ and dont even know how to do a rotation they just spam skills.

SE also killed FFXI since they added ilvl the game has became a ghost town less and less people as the sub payment is due.

[Suirieko]

Why not just have spirit bonding progress when performing the relevant activity? Crafter and gatherer gear only gain spirit bond when crafting and gathering and combat gear obviously only gets spirit bond from combat.

At least with this people would be wearing stat boosting gear with relevant stats.

You've never tried spiritbonding crafting gears by crafting have you? I mean, really have you? >.>;

[Rysir]

You've never tried spiritbonding crafting gears by crafting have you? I mean, really have you? >.>;

yeah actually, a bit lenghty but not the end of the world to try to get it done that way. And theres the bit that you can afk and the game pretty much spiritbonds for you with quick crafting.

[Suirieko]

yeah actually, a bit lenghty but not the end of the world to try to get it done that way. And theres the bit that you can afk and the game pretty much spiritbonds for you with quick crafting.

It takes way too long, and the price of the materias would sky rocket. Gathering has it even worse. I mine all the time, and the gears I've used for months still haven't reached 100%. I don't think it's a good idea, and things, as it is, are fine.

Seriously. Let people do what they want, and if you don't like it, you can leave the DF.

[Rysir]

It takes way too long, and the price of the materias would sky rocket. Gathering has it even worse. I mine all the time, and the gears I've used for months still haven't reached 100%. I don't think it's a good idea, and things, as it is, are fine.

Seriously. Let people do what they want, and if you don't like it, you can leave the DF.

You realize you can spiritbond via low level crafts and mining right? You dont have to use max level crafts to spiritbond, Ive spiritbonded gear off of elemental shards without too much time spent as its at worst a total of 40 mins of mining. Hell, I make money while spiritbonding. While I dont personally have a huge issue with people wearing 1 or 2 offclass armor pieces for spiritbonding (unless they die frequently, or is the tank) I find it to be better to be a good neighbor and spiritbond without causing someone to pop a blood vessel.

[Welsper59]

Seriously. Let people do what they want, and if you don't like it, you can leave the DF.

That's not exactly the best way to go about it though. It's not exactly right to say that someone wanting to play in a dungeon appropriately should leave the group versus someone that is intentionally slowing down the group for their own benefit, especially in the DPS situation. Queue times aren't exactly great. It's a lot better to say they should kick the person that's doing it. They can queue right back up if they want, since no penalty, but at least the player that isn't being a problem is still in a group that could probably progress without a 4th in most cases. Bad behavior does need to have some consequence, instead of just ignoring it. Not saying that SB'ing in a group is inherently bad, so long as everyone can do it without anyone in the group (especially the people of subject ending up a hypocrite) complaining about it.

[Nalien]

yeah actually, a bit lenghty but not the end of the world to try to get it done that way. And theres the bit that you can afk and the game pretty much spiritbonds for you with quick crafting.

I'm really surprised more people don't do this.

Blacksmith and Leatherworking have it made for them. Have Retainers gather Black Alumen and Iron Ore, then just auto-craft Raptor Leather/Cobalt Ingots. Trade in through Levequests, getting more Raptor Skins and Cobalt Ore, and repeat ad nauseum. Make plenty of Gil off the Levequests and Spiritbind crafting gear with minimal effort. Literally the only point to Levequests once you've leveled everything.

[Suirieko]

someone that is intentionally slowing down the group for their own benefit, especially in the DPS situation.

I'm sorry, but having a few pieces of gears to spiritbind has little to no impact to the overall progress speed. I mean sure, it might make the dungeon run slower by what... 30 seconds to 1 minute? I'm talking about Spiritbinding in dungeons, designed, minimally for level 55 people, where people have level 70, 80, even 90 100, and hell even level 110 gears and weapons, save a couple of pieces of gears that only brings down their ilevel by 5 or 10, which therefore, again, has negligible impact on the progress.

Most people, as they said here, actually practice common sense and only use accessories which offers (or take away) VERY little in stats, and even switch to their main set when on bosses.

Really. I fail to see how this even slows down the progress.

Now if they're SBing with EVERY slots including weapons then we have a problem, in which even I would do, given that I play primarily DPS, and most of the damage comes from the base damage of the weapon.

Hell I even object to spiritbinding weapons, which has little to no point in doing so. THAT will have a greatest impact on the overall DPS. Not SBing accessories.