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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Every successfull MMO has this problem. It will NEVER completely go away. No matter what they do.

    Blacklist 200 limit? Delete the first half. Most are already banned. (DELETED) characters are not banned characters. You can very likely clear most of that ban list with no ill effect.

    Auto ban? What I'f I'm afk and my friend sends me 3 tells? Well now you're banned. See, ideas like this easily punish legit players and are bad solutions.

    Bulk reports? Why should you need to? Click their name and "add to blacklist" and move on. Are you storing a list of 10 names to report them all at once or something?

    Flame thread? That's how you get banned. Plain and simple.

    SE crossing their arms? Are you seriously not seeing all the news posts they make where they tell us how many people they've banned? Here I'll grab one for you. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...600ff44b3e9452

    Having an issue deleting accounts? Stop playing mmos. As I said before this problem follows all successful mmo's. They will never eliminate this problem. If occasionally purging your list is difficult you might be in the wrong genre.

    I understand they can be frustrating, but two wrongs do not make a right. Solutions you provided would make things worse for real players, and you suggest SE doesn't care. Obviously they do as the RMT news posts make clear, and the simple fact is that keeping us around makes them money. Letting RMT have their way would be counter productive to their primary goal. Making money.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 06-04-2014 at 02:28 AM.

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    If I show you my list you would understand. Some of my suggestions are extreme but then again you said it ... my reporting on an open forum 200 peeps by name will get my single account banned but those same 200 people would still be on doing the same stuff. The stem is flawed and we need fixing. I don't play other MMO I only play FFXIV and as such I expect BETTER solutions than other MMO's. If it is a problem shouldn't we fix it not just cover it up?
    If they don't have enough people to manage all those reported accounts then they can just remove the limit so we can jeu keep adding until the servers crash due to performance then they WILL have to address the situation. You don't sweep a problem under the rug you deal with it plain and simple. just douse other MMO's do it wrong doesn't mean FFXIV should do it wrong too.
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    They don't sweep anything under any rugs. If you clicked my link above you would see the most recent news post where they detail what actions they took. There is no possible way you can objectively say they are brushing anything under the rug.

    Also, adding more blacklist space adds a considerable amount of memory requirements to the server. Sure, for one player another 100 isn't anything more than another 100 strings. Multiply that by 2million users and it becomes another story. There are pros and cons to all approaches. A "This should never happen so do whatever it takes to stop it" attitude will not obtain good answers to this problem.

    Why would you expect Square to have a better solution to a problem that plagues ALL MMOs? Isn't that a bit unreasonable to expect that level of innovation from them simply because it's the only MMO you play?
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    Tiggy my point is THEY need to make it harder for the Gil Sellers to do those actions and EASIER for us consumers to report them. On my friend list I can see when my friends are on when the are in dungeons and stuff like that ... but for accounts that I want to block .. all I can see if anything is their names. Is the problem they have the amount of people being reported or they need to verify the accounts or something else? I don't care how hard I make SE jobs in order to fix it when you think about it we are all paying consumers and they need to make it easier for us to report stuff like this. Fine don't create a flame war.. but then they can make an upload file that you can use to upload50,100 or 200 peeps at a time and they can create an algorithm that if the same player is reported thru that system by more than lets say 10 people the person on the list gets auto banned until his account has been verified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    If you clicked my link above you would see the most recent news post where they detail what actions they took.
    They're taking reactive steps (banning accounts that advertise). I don't see anything about proactive steps that they're taking to limit the number of gilspams that legitimate players must endure, nor steps to make it easier to report and manage the dozens of gilspams that we get every day.

    They need to make it more difficult for gilspammers to get their message out and easier for legitimate players to block their messages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Blacklist 200 limit? Delete the first half. Most are already banned. (DELETED) characters are not banned characters. You can very likely clear most of that ban list with no ill effect.
    My problem is that my blacklist is so full of gil selling spammers that I don't remember which people I legitimately blacklisted - the people who annoyed me or harassed me who I never want to interact with. I can't blindly delete half my blacklist because then I will un-blacklist some of these people. There are many names on my list right now and I don't know if they're spammers or annoying people. Some of the spammers are obvious, but some of them have normal names.

    It would be nice if in addition to "add to blacklist," there was also a "report as spam & add to blacklist" button.
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