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  1. #11
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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurihyuga View Post
    that is great and all and also the right way for new people. We tried doing that with our FC but the trolls man the trolls. We just decided its less of a headache to just farm myth which is now a lot quicker than it used to be and its better gear.
    I've only run into one genuine troll in about 15 runs of CT so far. The guy literally ran in and aggro'd every mob in the first chamber, died, and then left the dungeon. Miraculously though, we didn't even wipe from it. I think we did wipe once later against Atomos, but oh well.

    There's a lot of newer players in CT, or even experienced players who just don't understand CT, and while only a handful of people need to understand what's going on in order to clear things, when you get the wrong mix of people, things happen. It's rarely deliberate trolling, just accidents. One of my FC buddies put it best last time: "Almost nobody learns how anything in CT works until it goes wrong and someone yells about it".
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  2. #12
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    Yurihyuga's Avatar
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    Character
    Valous Voakes
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    trolls in CT

    -spams lb as soon as one bar fills on trash.
    -don't heal
    -pull mobs badly deliberately no matter how many times we ask them to stop
    -steps off platform for atamos forcing party disposition where someone jumps on in an emergency
    -Another tank troll with behemoth and even though mt and ot was decided another tank pulls and spams enmity and keeps behemoth in the middle and moves him to towers.

    get this a lot.
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  3. #13
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    Is this excessive trolling behaviour new? I haven't gone into CT since 2.2 was launched, but prior to that I didn't encounter any memorable trolls
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  4. #14
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    Personally, thinking back to all the atmosphere and speculation about the tower before launch. The whole thing seems to be a wasted opportunity.
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  5. #15
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I've only run into one genuine troll in about 15 runs of CT so far. The guy literally ran in and aggro'd every mob in the first chamber, died, and then left the dungeon.
    I'd hardly call that a genuine troll. The real trolls are the ones who keep doing stuff like that over and over and don't leave until they are kicked. The super dedicated ones come in with friends so that their own parties can't kick them.
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  6. #16
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    Tomba Labomba
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I am curious what drops the DEVS have planned for the new CT. When CT was released, it was a good way to get your alts up in Item level. It also made jumping into Coil easier but that was also because of the Myth cap. The situation we have now is different. You can get Item Level 90 gear in no time because there is no real Myth cap anymore (get 2.000 tomes, spend them and get 2.000 more and so on). You can also get one item per week (some need 2 weeks) with Strat tomes.

    I assume, the drops in the next CT will be either Item Level 95 or 105 to reproduce a similiar bridge to the 110 Item Level drops in Coil. You can get one per week to limit your progress and the rest you need to get sorted with Myth and Strat tomes and/or 2nd Coil drops. Problem is, if the difficulty of the 2nd CT is the same as the 1st one, it renders the 1st CT completely useless. For me it is already now useless besides the one or other Vanity item but there are also fresh players who surely like their CT runs.

    Not sure where this Game will be in one Year from now. Maybe you turn 50 and the next step is to obtain Item Level 150 items as the first thing you do. The progression in small steps 50-60-70-80-90-100-110 we went through (if you played this Game since Beta or Release) is something I assume is going to die and people will make bigger jumps after reaching the Level cap.
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  7. #17
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    You now what i think is the biggest problem with CT? That it is supposed to act like a stepping stone into content that is released BEFORE it is released itself. That is my main issue with CT. If they stop that I am fine with it, but as it seems now it seems like the game is developing itself backwards.
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  8. #18
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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    You now what i think is the biggest problem with CT? That it is supposed to act like a stepping stone into content that is released BEFORE it is released itself. That is my main issue with CT. If they stop that I am fine with it, but as it seems now it seems like the game is developing itself backwards.
    If they stopped doing that, we'd never see places like Brayflox HM, or the upcoming Hullbreaker Isle, etc. They cover level/gear/reward ranges that technically you can already be well ahead of or skip entirely if you were so inclined.

    Although, yes there's people who complain about those too for that reason, but honestly, I have 0 issue with the introduction of content that is not aimed at the extremely tiny crowd that has already tackled everything.
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    Last edited by Garlyle; 06-03-2014 at 08:28 PM.

  9. #19
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    Shenandoah's Avatar
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    Yamete Oniichan
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 13
    Quote Originally Posted by AiChyan View Post
    Is this excessive trolling behaviour new? I haven't gone into CT since 2.2 was launched, but prior to that I didn't encounter any memorable trolls
    Eh, I guess it depends on the data center. Mine has 0 trolls even after 2.2, and I queue a lot of CTs to get all the gear for all class while farming myth for other classes/animus books. With that said though, there were problems, but it's not because of trolls but because new people were running it for the first time.
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  10. #20
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    Aileen Pureheart
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I ran a CT last night and it was a very pleasant experience. It was a lot of fun and everybody who got loot needed the upgrades so I would say the dungeon is still doing its job.
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