Do people HONESTLY want end game large scale pvp....

[Xeak]

I agree with Atoli, where was the news about endgame PvP? Also, in honesty, endgame PvP is a horrible idea. If there's any PvP at all (which Yoshi-P stated there will be some form of it, not specifically endgame) then there should be different levels of it so that anyone of any rank/level can play it just for fun. I don't even mind getting gear rewards from PvP, but only if it's obtainable in another equally challenging way for those who don't like PvP, or the gear is specifically balanced for PvP (not particularly fond of that idea). Now like I said in another redundant post ... can we let this topic rest? Just shove PvP out of your mind until the devs make a statement like "here comes PvP!" Then we can fuss about what it's going to be like before that patch, because we all know they won't give any detail on it until like a week away from patch launch.

[Atoli]

[...] don't enter the PvP area/instance/whatever if it is released.

Some little area or instance does not really sound like the large scale PvP they are talking about, so again I'm asking:
Why do you even think there would be large scale PvP?
Maybe some small PvP in some arena someday, sure, but large scale?
Although I actually like the idea of an arena to compete in
Because it means there's no stupid PvP in my everyday gameplay, but when I feel like it, I can go into the arena (which could have "tournaments" in different classes, like "easy" for 1-10, "not all that easy" for 10-20 and so on x)

[Xeak]

Since I can't double like Atoli's post ... +1 lol

[Khalus]

The worst thing in MMOs is people being forced to play PvP because they want a certain item from there...IMO

Precisely, or forced to raid to get the best gear. Its ridiculous, most MMOs are entirely PvE ~ {mostly solo questing, and small group instanced where ya get the majority of your gear from.} However, as soon as ya get to the cap...the only way to get the best gear is forced PvP and Raids...solo PvE is pretty much non-existent...like seriously, where are our sets of gear? Why can't devs add gear that restricts raiders and PvPs from using it...much like say arena gear requires that you earn a certain score to use it...etc.

Sure, there usually are a great deal of small-group instances for a not so bad set of gear in many games, but for the best stuff {that all matches and looks good} you must raid or PvP. I wouldn't mind if I had to travel to all corners of the world and kill thousands of different mobs and a multitude of special named mobs that only appear to those on these PvE gear set quests...anyway...

[Shyd]

I could care less bout PvP~ but if there was some sort of PvP i would prolly play with LS mates~

[Glyder]

Lol that's exactly why they're implementing it. So that Square can compete with other MMO's. Right now any and all information regarding PvP is vague but I believe that it is the right choice and, if implemented correctly, could make FFXIV one of the best MMOs on the market if not THE best...why not have a little faith eh ;p?

[zaviermhigo]

I heard large scale PvE, where is this large scale PvP coming from?

[Lienn]

Precisely, or forced to raid to get the best gear. Its ridiculous, most MMOs are entirely PvE ~ {mostly solo questing, and small group instanced where ya get the majority of your gear from.} However, as soon as ya get to the cap...the only way to get the best gear is forced PvP and Raids...solo PvE is pretty much non-existent...like seriously, where are our sets of gear? Why can't devs add gear that restricts raiders and PvPs from using it...much like say arena gear requires that you earn a certain score to use it...etc.

Sure, there usually are a great deal of small-group instances for a not so bad set of gear in many games, but for the best stuff {that all matches and looks good} you must raid or PvP. I wouldn't mind if I had to travel to all corners of the world and kill thousands of different mobs and a multitude of special named mobs that only appear to those on these PvE gear set quests...anyway...

The thing is that PvP isn't a balanced content. You cannot reward endgame stuff when the battle can be cheated. "Hey, let me win until i get that item then i help yoou get your" isn't a nice thing...or someone just beating the hell out of his mule to have points for something...

Drgonica has endgame PvP stuff...and the result was the 2 situations said above...if you don't have both sides playing serious then it isn't worth endgame reward.

Maybe if someday they add a GM team to be beaten, then it will be a completely different thing...but IMO player vs player should be for fun only.

[Atoli]

Oh, I get it now.
I found the text this thread was based on, someone google translated something Yoshi-P said:

Aside from PvP, we also plan to integrate, to a large-scale PvP in the game. Since we currently can not yet reveal much more about it, I think it would be great if you are currently just yet perceives as an "It will come."

This was actually a wrong translation by Google, Yoshi-P was talking about end game large scale PvE.
And a little bit of normal PvP. Nothing large scale though.
(Although I don't know why Google turns PvE into PvP..)

[Irana]

The large scale pvp was posted in the forums by yoshi if IM not mistaken and translated for us into english. I dont have the link, just look around.