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  1. #11
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    Ddmk's Avatar
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    Beowolf Destroyer
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Try making a summon bell without it

    Spoiler alert: you won't be able to
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  2. #12
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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Piece by piece is for the 3 star furniture. Sure, you could use it for 3 star armors, but you are just burning CP faster than you need to, in my opinion at least.

    What Ddmk said for 3 star furniture though, you'd have to be rather lucky to do it without a couple piece by piece thrown in. It's rather funny to see someone try to make one for the first time... 0.o "Oh dear lord, the bar isn't moving.... IT ISN'T MOVING?!?!"

    My first 3 star furniture that I was asked to make was one of the white raven pieces.... so yea, I was sweating just a little bit! It's not like furniture was ever a challenge to make until then, so it is amusing to find that they can be tricky once you hit the 3 stars.
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    Last edited by Cherie; 06-02-2014 at 02:20 AM.

  3. #13
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    tremor24's Avatar
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    Tremor Raid
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDunk View Post
    CZ>IQ>Ingenuity2>Waste Not>CSx6>CZ>SH2>Waste Not2>Hastyx4>SH2>Hastyx3>Manipulation>SH2>Hastyx2>SH2>Great Strides>(Innovation if 1ToTT)>Ingenuity 2(2 ToTT)>Byregot's>CS2


    -- There is a little more to it than that, but its on a per craft basis...I'm sure you can figure it out if you try
    Ingenuity2 > Waste Not > CSx6 is 40 durability + 10 durability for the CSII at the end for a total of 50 durability and only costs 88 CP (Ing2 is 32CP and Waste Not is 56 CP).

    The alternative is: Steady Hand > Piece by Piece x2 and at the end of the craft use Ingenuity2 (which you use anyway) > Innovation > Byregot's > CS2x3, this also takes 50 durability for the complete progress and costs only 52 CP for the progress cost (Steady Hand is 22CP and Piece by Piece is 15CP twice) since the Ing2 already being use for Byregot's is also being used for progress and no additional cost.

    Using this you will always be able to finish using Ingenuity 2 without relying on Tricks of the trade because of the saved CP.
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  4. #14
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    Sakura Ephemera
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    Brynhildr
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDunk View Post
    CZ>IQ>Ingenuity2>Waste Not>CSx6>CZ>SH2>Waste Not2>Hastyx4>SH2>Hastyx3>Manipulation>SH2>Hastyx2>SH2>Great Strides>(Innovation if 1ToTT)>Ingenuity 2(2 ToTT)>Byregot's>CS2


    -- There is a little more to it than that, but its on a per craft basis...I'm sure you can figure it out if you try
    This rotation looks terrible to me. Do you really only use 9 hasty touches, or is it dependent on good procs? 9 hasty touches, even if they all succeed, is not enough to HQ 3-star with NQ materials, and using all HQ materials is a waste of gil and unnecessary.
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  5. #15
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    Attackat Muaddib
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Billzey View Post
    is not enough to HQ 3-star with NQ materials, and using all HQ materials is a waste of gil and unnecessary.
    Is there a rotation for 3 star HQ crafting using ONLY NQ mats? Please share ...

    jc
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  6. #16
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddmk View Post
    Try making a summon bell without it

    Spoiler alert: you won't be able to
    I did it once, not summoning bell but some other one with the same difficulty, first time on a craft and forgot to set PbP. Was rough. Never again.
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