SMN in T8

[Erai]

Ifrit is significantly more dps as long as you have a monk, even with proper use of contagion. This holds true for Turn 6/8/9, Garuda is closer on T7. I've only played with Ifrit since i103, so can't speak for anything less than that. The difference from then on though is very significant.

My question is, why does everyone think you have to start with and stick with 1 pet? I open with Garuda, Contagion my raging+pot+poison pot dots then swiftcast out to ifrit for the remainder of the fight. On T9 I can bring Garuda out for every Raging Strikes because of the fights downtime and not be affected mana wise.

For reference I can sustain ~415 dps on T8, where I use Ifrit the entire fight after I Contagion my opener. No poison pots. (i110 book)

Ifrit pulled 116 dps this week on Turn 9 - keep in mind T9 has A LOT of downtime, which makes that number much less than it would be on a 100% uptime fight. Find me a Garuda that can even get close to that. I also swap out to Garuda to Contagion every Raging Strikes which lowers Ifrits DPS as well.

Plain and simple - if you must use 1 pet for the entire fight, use Ifrit if you have a monk. Proper use of contagion on a fight like Turn 7 brings Garuda closer, and Garuda is better in situations where there is AOE and your dots will get to run their full Contagion duration. That leaves Ifrit by far better for T6/8/9.. if you have a monk. I highly suggest learning what your mana pool can handle though, and swap between pets accordingly for the best of both worlds. Usually only worth it on the opener, but in T9 there's plenty of downtime to hard-cast pets so you don't get stuck with Garuda out and no swiftcast after using Contagion.

As for the Mana concern, 1 short Ballad during T8 is enough to sustain ifrit - assuming the fight goes its full duration. T9 your mana should never be an issue. As I said I swap to Contagion every Raging Strikes, then swap back and can sustain myself for the entire fight. (Energy drain during golems)

[NightReach]

For reference I can sustain ~415 dps on T8, where I use Ifrit the entire fight after I Contagion my opener. No poison pots. (i110 book)

This is just BS. If you're gona exaggerate your DPS you should at least put it in believable range. No summoner I have ever seen can pull 410+ on T8 as encounter DPS. In fact with full i110, which I am just short 1 ring, the most I can do is 395, only foe in the beginning. If you are really just i103, I would be impressed if you pull over 370 on encounter regardless what pet you are using. Show us a parse.

I was the second SMN on my server to clear T9, and neither me nor the other guy can hit 400, so please enlighten us.

[RinchanNau]

This is just BS. If you're gona exaggerate your DPS you should at least put it in believable range. No summoner I have ever seen can pull 410+ on T8 as encounter DPS. In fact with full i110, which I am just short 1 ring, the most I can do is 395, only foe in the beginning. If you are really just i103, I would be impressed if you pull over 370 on encounter regardless what pet you are using. Show us a parse.

I was the second SMN on my server to clear T9, and neither me nor the other guy can hit 400, so please enlighten us.

He isn't lying. I have raided w/ him on BRD.

[NightReach]

He isn't lying. I have raided w/ him on BRD.

And do you have a parse?

[RinchanNau]

And do you have a parse?

A what? We don't post such things on these forums. I think you know that.

[Menriq]

And do you have a parse?

Our SMN can do it. I don't know anything about SMN, but I do know he uses Garuda. Here is his parse.

[Sanctus]

Ifrit is significantly more dps as long as you have a monk, even with proper use of contagion. This holds true for Turn 6/8/9, Garuda is closer on T7. I've only played with Ifrit since i103, so can't speak for anything less than that. The difference from then on though is very significant.

Is that with Ifrit on obey or sic?

[Elos]

Monk will increase Ifrits Skill Dmg (about 10%)
War can increase Ifrits AA Dmg (about 10%)

I usually use Ifrit for 6/8 = 400+ EncDPS (110weap) ilvl 101

In Turn 9 i will start using Ifrit in Last Phase.

Say what you want but Iftit is stonger than Garuda :P
Test it yourself!
Garuda was always better than Ifrit(Single Target), but after a Hot Fix or something like that it changed! (between 2.1 -2.2)

And btw with Contagion you can cast 3 more Ruin's every minute. Worth it?
(Mana issues and buffed Dot's are another thing :P)

I have Monk and War in my Raid and the ScoB is defenetly Melee friendly.
No Reason for me to go with Garuda!

[Teeratong]

Monk will increase Ifrits Skill Dmg (about 10%)
War can increase Ifrits AA Dmg (about 10%)

I usually use Ifrit for 6/8 = 400+ EncDPS (110weap) ilvl 102

In Turn 9 i will start using Ifrit in Last Phase.

Say what you want but Iftit is stonger than Garuda :P
Test it yourself!
Garuda was always better than Ifrit(Single Target), but after a Hot Fix or something like that it changed! (between 2.1 -2.2)

And btw with Contagion you can cast 3 more Ruin's every minute. Worth it?
(Mana issues and buffed Dot's are another thing :P)

I have Monk and War in my Raid and the ScoB is defenetly Melee friendly.
No Reason for me to go with Garuda!

that u mean 20% damage increase for Ifrit ?

[Atreides]

that u mean 20% damage increase for Ifrit ?

No, thats overall still a 10% damage increase since a Monk will increase ifrits skill damage by 10% and a Warrior his auto attacks.