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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodclaw View Post
    Wow, how quickly people jump to defend SE with out thinking about thing.
    Wow, how quick someone comes up with a ridiculous idea to "alleviate" the problems that they created in their own mind.

    Retainers bring nothing that actually help you in end game. Can you get some stuff to make money from? Sure. But what are you going to spend it on? Ilvl 90 gear is handed out from Brayflox and Coil 1-4 are pretty easy for the majority of players participating to farm. It's not defending SE, it's stating obvious rebuttals to a "cure" of a non-existent design flaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    Wow, how quick someone comes up with a ridiculous idea to "alleviate" the problems that they created in their own mind.

    Retainers bring nothing that actually help you in end game. Can you get some stuff to make money from? Sure. But what are you going to spend it on? Ilvl 90 gear is handed out from Brayflox and Coil 1-4 are pretty easy for the majority of players participating to farm. It's not defending SE, it's stating obvious rebuttals to a "cure" of a non-existent design flaw.
    You don't see how us as a fan and consumer might be groomed into thinking P2W is okay while thinking its not P2W? Fine then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodclaw View Post
    You don't see how us as a fan and consumer might be groomed into thinking P2W is okay while thinking its not P2W? Fine then.
    Except there is NOTHING pay to win about 2 more retainers, not in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    Except there is NOTHING pay to win about 2 more retainers, not in the slightest.
    Bull, any time you pay for ANY benefit it effects the entire game making it easier. Even the special head gear from the special edition is P2W as it gives you an EXP bonus till 10th level. So you are wrong and there is nothing else left to it other than you and everyone else's fan craze defense of SE.

    Just because it is P2W doesn't mean it needs to be game breaking or drastic, but it is still there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodclaw View Post
    Bull, any time you pay for ANY benefit it effects the entire game making it easier. Even the special head gear from the special edition is P2W as it gives you an EXP bonus till 10th level. So you are wrong and there is nothing else left to it other than you and everyone else's fan craze defense of SE.

    Just because it is P2W doesn't mean it needs to be game breaking or drastic, but it is still there.
    And? those things are tiny and as long as we voice to have them not put any more P2W things in the game it will be ok :/ at least its better than your solution which is to add MORE microtransactions into the game
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