Vote Kick Abuse at its best.

[zulu_kulu]

There were 4ppl, assume that 2ppl kicked 2ppl?
i.e. tank kicked op then dps kicked healer

again...you cannot initiate vote kick once it been used until the cooldown is done..period. i know because i tried this during a CT run when one member tries to troll the run and i tried to vote kick him after the first vote failed and got hit with a message saying i cant used it again so soon.

please do not post about stuff you dont know nothing about.

[Shurrikhan]

Unless the tank purposely blasts you with the fire breath, there's nothing he can really do about it; Swinge aims at a random direction/player. Both you and the healer also have sprint that you can freely use to help avoid the blast. Bards being too stand-offish are usually the only ones I see get hit by that (due probably to the lack of free sprint). No positioning of the boss can help that. The only really reckless behavior possible for that fight is for the tank to try to dodge the fire breath with people standing in your dodge angle (potentially cleaving them when you fail to dodge).

[MeiUshu]

hmm no, you cannot vote kick twice... so either you did got vote kicked out and your friend left or you are making this story up or leaving out info.as i just said , you CANNOT vote kick twice, the vote kick system has a cooldown,so the vote kick system is working as intended. also i suspect the OP is leaving out pieces of this story to make himself look innocent. i seen to many threads where someone claim to be a victim, but was a jerk just getting his due.

you can actually, i have seen it done in CT. Three times in a row a vote kick in our group was initiated and three times it wasnt let through. The motives were fallacious, they wanted to vote kick a player that didnt say a single word not in alliance or group ever from the start of the dungeon, nobody spoke to that person either, the reason to vote kick that person ?...HARRASSMENT...where on earth was there harrassment I still wonder today..

Vote kick shouldnt exist is a tool for abuse handed out to immature people that believe themselves invested of a superior and divine right.

For the rest, in thatplace, everybody tank that boss whever it is...most move it to the side though...in the end asking a question should never be a motif for kicking

Mei

[HakuroDK]

It's hard, sometimes, when strategies differ.

I was in a T5 coil run once. Every strategy I practiced for said to avoid divebombs by staying in the middle of the battlefield and running away, yet another strategy used was to run into a ditch and do the same thing, but with an increased likelihood that the divebomb would mostly hit areas outside the battlefield. I didn't know that, so I got votekicked and blacklisted by every person in that raid.

This sounds like a similar problem here. Because strategies differed, you got votekicked. The tank was definitely wrong to votekick you, but there should have been some kind of dialogue beforehand so it was understood what to do.

Essentially, when I'm running with new players, I just say "Every so often, the boss will run to a wall or, if it's already at a wall, it will face away from me. When it does that, try to stay behind the boss or it'll fry you with a very damaging attack." and, after that, I'll answer any questions folks have.

It seems like your tank was a very zero-tolerance-for-imperfection kind of player, and I don't quite care for players like that because they are usually the ones that make runs quite unenjoyable.

[Vladislav]

please be aware that the Game Masters will be unable to take action if a group member has been removed due to a player dispute, or if the game style differs (I.e. skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics, equipment deemed not high enough, etc.)

Can't say better than that , also in DF can expect anything .

[AngelicSence]

Well.. You shouldn't fight with other players. It's just nonsense... Some people will never understand. In fact, this is online game. Many people are addicted and has life issues. I don't want to spread this message because people call it "bs". But, it's the truth. When you play the game it's just screen and keyboard(controller), but there are people behind it who you don't know. Maybe you are playing with kids. You never know. In a situation like this where you can't predict things. Sometimes, it's a smart idea to just walk away. I know it's stressful, but believe me, reporting them doesn't change anything. It's very rare where they get banned. Remember, not everyone is so bad.. I personally met with awesome players. All hopes are not lost. Good players waiting for you to discover them ... Clear your mind, be smart and move on have a nice day.

[TeganLaron]

again...you cannot initiate vote kick once it been used until the cooldown is done..period. i know because i tried this during a CT run when one member tries to troll the run and i tried to vote kick him after the first vote failed and got hit with a message saying i cant used it again so soon.

please do not post about stuff you dont know nothing about.

Yes, you can. There is no cooldown on an attempted vote kick, that's a vote abandon. And multiple people can vote kick regardless of whether someone has already been dismissed or not.

Please do not post about stuff you don't know anything about.

[dayspring83]

so a strait vote kick after boss fight because I died and every guide on the fight tells you tank him in the middle to give party time to move out the way. again his quote "if you cant doge learn the fight" and strait kick after the fight strait after with nothing more said. This is not classified as abuse of the vote system?

Correct me of am wrong but on vote kick there is not an option for "kick because this player dose not play the way i do."

"However, please be aware that the Game Masters will be unable to take action if a group member has been removed due to a player dispute, or if the game style differs (I.e. skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics, equipment deemed not high enough, etc.)"


They addressed that in their response. We understand you dont like it, but GMs are not here to mediate your disputes between party members. Time to move on, mate.

[zulu_kulu]

Yes, you can. There is no cooldown on an attempted vote kick, that's a vote abandon. And multiple people can vote kick regardless of whether someone has already been dismissed or not.

Please do not post about stuff you don't know anything about.

what? there is a cooldown on both.it been like this since day one of its implementation. i do know what i am talking about,thank you very much, but you clearly don't though.

[Billie21]

Assuming things really went as OP is describing it:
While the method to down the boss is arguable (I've never seen it tanked in the middle either), being kicked simply for questionning the method is abuse.
Unless SE has made a statement on the rules for votekick, or changed their ingame messages when votekicking since I was last online.

If SE can't deal with this kind of things, they are simply paying for the shortcomings of the feature itself, which should have included measures to limit abuse before being implemented.