Proove same-gender marriage is controversial: Hold A Vote!

[Kyuuen]

Plus, results would be skewed. IMMA MAKE 8 ALTS TO VOTE! HURR

Not any harder to turn it into a quest that can't be repeated and make it per account. HURR

[Lemuria]

I think everyone seems to be ignoring or skirting one of the bigger issues here. This game is international. Anything added to the game has to cross borders, whether you like it or not, and some of those countries have rather draconian policies. Best to avoid the culture shock in the first place by simply not adding it.

If it was a single player experience, this would be less of an issue as the localization can deal with it. But being an MMO these things HAVE to be considered. It's got nothing to do with what they might WANT to do or what the players want. It's the law, so deal with it.

I'd like to reinforce my statement by saying that I have no issue whatsoever with same-sex marriage. In fact, I'm rather appalled at the state of some countries which still treat the gay community with contempt. However, my feelings are moot given that there are still REAL restrictions on what SE can do in this matter. The sooner we all learn that's just how some places work, the sooner we can put this whole argument to rest.

[Azurymber]

Plus, results would be skewed. IMMA MAKE 8 ALTS TO VOTE! HURR

global var marriageresponse = 0

When you respond to the questions:

If marriageresponse = 0
marriageresponse = 1
give item
record response

else if marriageresponse = 1
give item
don't record response
respond with "it seems that you have already voted"

[kidvideo]

Oh snap... Noahlimits was just CODED.

[Hyrist]

So... you're going to force every member to vote? How do you count those that abstain?

There's a reason why SE is on eggshells about this: They can potentially lose a large number of members one way or another over it. Your intentions will exasperate the issue by falsely empowering the playerbase to a decision that, ultimately, is in the hands not of the players, but of the developers.


For the record, I am absolutely for Marriage, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. To be frank I find it a bit backwards to put such an idea to a vote, as it insinuates that popular opinion should be able to overwhelm basic human rights, which to me is bogus regardless of what medium it is depicted in.

It's like me saying we should deny people the right to publicly practice religion because it makes me uncomfortable and it offends my sensibilities. My personal opinion shouldn't be an influence on a basic human right.

- That statement, of course, will label me a hypocrite when I inevitably take over the world and make you all do what I tell you to, but by then that won't matter. All Hail the Hyristian Nation!

[Ferth]

Just don't create a marriage system for the game at all. If players want to get married let them use the options already in the game to do so. Then SE avoids any perceived culpability. Add the clothing, add rings if you want, open up the church then just let players figure the logistics themselves.

[Souljacker]

Just don't create a marriage system for the game at all. If players want to get married let them use the options already in the game to do so. Then SE avoids any perceived culpability. Add the clothing, add rings if you want, open up the church then just let players figure the logistics themselves.

Exactly. Add some craftable rings wearable by anyone that bind two characters together and let the players decide how to handle their ceremonies. There is no need for a GM to preside - use Rift's system as a model. Instanced area for the wedding couple and their guests, some party favors and a scripted generic ceremony. It really doesn't have to be this huge massive big deal everyone is making out of it. As some folks have pointed out - it's a fantasy game. If I can take a potion to automagically change myself into a dude complete with original equipment - why can't I just have my own personal fantasy ceremony with who my character already is?

[Enkrateia]

As this thread has immediately lost the discussion about the original point, and the later discussions are going over discussion topics that have been brought up before, I will be locking this thread. Posts within the thread will be moderated as normal when reported; however, to prevent the thread from continuing off topic in this manner, the locking of the thread allows the original point to remain while preventing further off topic or inflammatory discussions. The idea brought up in the original post is certainly an interesting one, and feel free to show your support for the idea through the use of the "Like!" button.

LGM Enkrateia