Atma disappointment social help thread. For those with no luck.

[ShinkuTachi]

I'll tell you what truly bothers me: paying for a boring game. And I'm pretty sure this is a matter that worries the developers too. The last thing they want to do is bore us to the point where we forget about their game.

But by all means, keep on asking for similar content if you enjoy it.

I'm just saying if you give the Atma~Animus, one of the newest pieces added, some time. The grind for dated weapons will be softened up, and there will also be newer and better weapons available.

It's not like this is the only good weapon you can work towards anyway. There is the Tidal Weapon, a Weathered~Unweathered weapon, and a High Allagan Weapon. If working towards an Animus doesn't work for you right now, it's not like you're without options to acquire some of the best pieces in the game.

[Andres_Lonegrief]

1.this type of content is clearly intended to keep players paying their subscription until next update and I have no issues with this, but we are going towards other major update so they could have at least increased the drop rate.
2.we are not against grinding! It's the idea that lies behind that creates a problem!
Is this too hard to understand?
EFFORT --> REWARD is the normal path, Atma is: EFFORT (and a big one: endless number of FATE) --MAYBE -->REWARD.
It has nothing to do with grinding, farming or time: you have no guarantees that in - say - 1 year you will get your ATMA Weapon.
Farming mitho and completing dungeon / hard boss would be ok: it would take time, but I'd slowly reaching my objective.
I can understand you want to feel special and I'd gladly help you to find other reasons to feel so, but please accept that reality: at the moment this system is just sick. People spending a whole day doing fates hoping to drop an atma and getting 0 after 24 hours is sick!

[Mysteran]

Grinding RNG is more attitude than aptitude. If you don't like it, there's other ways of progression. Please consider not pressing this existing path to be changed, molded to your personal wants. Because it isn't broken. It caters to a type of player which you clearly are not.

The only problem with this is that this is the weapon that we will be able to do other quests and other content later on to make even better. This is the weapon that will grow with us. This is how the weapon was described to us. Yet if we want to participate in any of that later content, we have to do the Atma quests. If we want to participate in the book content that most people have no problem with, we have to do the Atma quests.

If it were a grind to get one weapon equivalent to the Atma/Animus weapon and that was the end of it then I doubt you'd see as many complaints. This way it would not be a case where we would need to participate in other things to come. It would be a true choice at that point.

[Iriadysa]

I'm just saying if you give the Atma~Animus, one of the newest pieces added, some time. The grind for dated weapons will be softened up, and there will also be newer and better weapons available.

It's not like this is the only good weapon you can work towards anyway. There is the Tidal Weapon, a Weathered~Unweathered weapon, and a High Allagan Weapon. If working towards an Animus doesn't work for you right now, it's not like you're without options to acquire some of the best pieces in the game.

And I, as many others, have already opted out of this progression path. This is a personal vision, but I don't really care about what weapon is best or the gear I can get; I do care, however, about the content I have access to.

Opting out of Atma due to the mind shattering boring premise (much beyond anything previously found in the game) makes it so that I'm also opting out of the whole Novus content line and future content that follows, until this atma business is changed. Which as you mentioned, could be in 2.4 or even 2.5.

Had the Atma quest line been a dead end content line, I would not worry a bit. I would've just opted out, never looked back again and mourn the fact that even a minute of development time was used for it, but nothing else. But Atma is part of a content road block right now that stops us from current and future content.

To me and others, every content patch notes that includes anything related to the relic quest can now be completely skipped.

Edit: Previous poster said the exact same thing as me, go figure.

[ShinkuTachi]

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What I don't understand is exactly what content you will be cut out of for not having an Animus, and later a Novus. I mean if you're speaking strictly of the relic quest, I can see what you're talking about. As you have to complete one leg to move to the next. However, if you're speaking of the overall game content in general, there are other weapons available to obtain so you can stay up to date. In patch 2.3, the new primal Ramuh will also have a weapon.

So outside of being able to continue the relic quest at this point, I don't see where you will be locked out of participating in the game's content.

I can understand you want to feel special and I'd gladly help you to find other reasons to feel so

Please keep discussion civil.
If this is your response when dealing with people who don't share your PoV, don't expect to find an understanding ear.

[Kuroyasha]

I started doing another atma weapon yesterday for the hell of it. Got 6 just from doing a few fates in between ques with a pf group to farm t2 ( i still dont have the allagan chest after 9 months T_T, Im close to just buying one). I think only two so far have taken me more than 10 attempts. Some great luck however Id like to note something that made it easier for me; Stop caring. Seriously, don't only grind for atma, as it will make you hate the game lol. Do some other stuff like roulettes or extremes, farm 1st coil for any gear u may still want, do some supply missions, level a craft or gatherer a little.

Do anything (whether in our out of game) that you enjoy or can take your mind off of atma for a little bit. Before i would mindlessly do fates way past the point of mind feelin like it's melting away lol. This time i just do some, stop, do something else, then go back for some more, repeat. It's not like your chances are getting worse from stopping (in terms of the drop rate on each individual fate), so just stop when you feel your mind melting away and come back.

Has worked wonders for me. also worked for someone else i know who ended up getting his second atma weap in two days

[AmyNeudaiz]

Grinding RNG is more attitude than aptitude. If you don't like it, there's other ways of progression. Please consider not pressing this existing path to be changed, molded to your personal wants. Because it isn't broken. It caters to a type of player which you clearly are not.

Honestly I think you just don't want more people getting Atma so you feel like a special little snowflake. Well guess what, you're not. Let people leave feedback without decrediting them or telling them to deal with it.

[Ehayte]

Roughly 170 FATEs, not a single Atma.

Have Lexi X weapon for all of my jobs that I use, T5 weaps for 3/5 that I use, working on Coil to get my weathered and then shiny weap for MNK.

But with the announcement of Novus, etc - its pretty clear that having a relic updated is going to be a very good option and a very good idea going forward. It got to the point where I took the glamor off my Relic Zenith because I thought that might be affecting it . . . I have the completed quest that lists the zones in the quest log, I have my Zenith equipped while killing . . . starting to want to cry.

[Khalette]

::waves:: Hi... my name is Li and I just resubbed and started this.

I know RNG. I've never been a really lucky person, and so when I heard this was what I needed to do, I decided maybe this game's RNG would be different with me. Maybe I would be lucky. Just maybe! The first few days I just did it while waiting in DF ques as DPS. Yesterday, though, I spent 8 hours (few minutes here and there to eat and go to the bathroom) of non-stop fate grinding. I did a zone for three hours, then switched to the "Japanese Theory" for the other five hours. No luck.

I think I'll be in this thread for quiet a while, so time to get comfy.

[Bizniztyme]

I'll tell you what truly bothers me: paying for a boring game. And I'm pretty sure this is a matter that worries the developers too. The last thing they want to do is bore us to the point where we forget about their game.

But by all means, keep on asking for similar content if you enjoy it.

It's pretty simple really, if it's a boring game and it bothers you, don't pay for the game. lol