Zoidac Weapon 2.28

[Slickpig]

Love the short sighted kids that wow brought Into the genre.
If it's not obvious I love the quest and we need more like it. Only my main will have animus anytime soon but all jobs but one have atma ATM, working on the last one as I type this.

Wow, and you call the other poster a "kid" you clearly are a kid to have this much time to farm these. in another post you said it took you 2.5 days at 8-10 hrs per day! I would kill for that kind of time. I need one more atma for my first atma weapon. A lot of us have 8am-5pm+ jobs, then kid stuff, so we maybe get a couple hours in the evening to work on this. So before you start calling people "kids" maybe you need to think about who you may be taking to. I wasted one of my 2 days off this weekend trying to finish this quest, I thought I could power through and finish it off, 12hrs later it sill didn't drop, THIS is why people like me are frustrated, nothing to show for a full day off from work gone.

[Giantbane]

Again
"Everyone should have to put the same amount of time into it."

No.

Some variety based on luck can be fine. Having to find a low drop rate item, not once, but 12 times is just asking for trouble. Some people spending 12 hrs and others spending 100hrs is too much of a difference for something people have absolutely no control over whatsoever (RNG). And this is all just to get a new weapon skin, then you have to do the real (and lengthy) quest to actually power the thing up.

What's worse is that you have to do it all at one step. So you can't really do any myth farming beyond the first book until you have all 12 atma.

[Sapphic]

After finally completing the Animus today.

I honestly felt that the Myth farm was more of a grind than the FATEs (ATMA) even tho it took me 683 FATEs to obtain. For me the RNG is like digging for treasure, hoping the next hole gives up the shiny.

Whereas a predetermined number is, to me, like watching the clock at the last hour at work before the weekend. Or using the previous analogy, Having to intentionally dig 999 holes before you can dig the 1000th one which only contains the shiny.

Doing the actual books, where kinda fun. pretty much like another challenge log,

[skaterger]

After finally completing the Animus today.

I honestly felt that the Myth farm was more of a grind than the FATEs (ATMA) even tho it took me 683 FATEs to obtain. For me the RNG is like digging for treasure, hoping the next hole gives up the shiny.

Whereas a predetermined number is, to me, like watching the clock at the last hour at work before the weekend. Or using the previous analogy, Having to intentionally dig 999 holes before you can dig the 1000th one which only contains the shiny.

Doing the actual books, where kinda fun. pretty much like another challenge log,

Nyah this neko knows what's up meow.

[catfight]

got my animus a while ago, but this whole process is just dumb. requires virtually no skills and is just pure mindless grind that's just tedious. It's not as long but just as stupid as FFXI's relic.

also, the NPC saying worthless book but it'll cost you or w/e kind of ticked me off (because of the wording / how it was said)

[Yumi_umi]

Yoshiiii end this war that is atma and just tell the community that there will be a buff to drop rates in 2.3
D: 2.28 seems a bit early.
Alsooo if atma books were 1000 each then of course we'll be partying with new animooses.
Hopefully no future similar atma grind will be implemented in the zodiac quest line, atleast give us a few months before you drop another zombie grind Xc

[Seif]

Now that I'm actually doing this quest here's my feedback:

I LOVE the fact that it takes long time to do. This game does not have long-term goals like this enough.

I HATE... Really HATE the random nature of the quest. The truth is I would welcome a 100hr quest like this but ONLY if I could track my progression towards the goal as points, currency, number of leves you name it.
As it is you can put in a week of play time and get ZERO proof of progress. This and only this makes me feel like the time played was time wasted.

Simply adjusting the drop rate is lazy game design.

[PuttyKat]

How long would you have your job once your boss realized that most of your work gets delayed and that all those delays were caused by you not thinking ahead and properly planning it out?

Also how much feedback has there been to take into account?
1. People that don't have their atmas yet don't like grinding fates.
2. People don't like farming mythology tomestones for weapons, but are ok with it for gear.
3. People like bagels, but obviously forum mods do not.
4. People like big butts and they cannot lie.

Unless the desired project must be changed due to feedback not for seen in the planning process. No planning can predict user feedback. They are doing a great job of building new content from feedback. The fact that it is delayed tells me they are listening, and trying to correct according to user feedback.

[Jim_Berry]

Gee I wonder why many people don't have an Animus let alone an Atma, surely it can't be because the whole RNG part was badly designed and implemented right from the start, this game is perfect and flawless after all, clearly it's must be the players' fault. At least it looks like all those good fellows screaming that there are other alternatives and to ignore the quest did convince people, seems like they did just that and ignored it.

Well, when you're in Western La Noscea for Crab Atma from about 9am to about 8pm, with 10 minutes breaks in between, and still no Atma, then...yeah... Figure it out!

[Jim_Berry]

Ok then i'm gonna say this. In theory, the majority of people must get what they want because by concept, more people will be happy.

For a video game, MMO, social and interactive and opinionfull gamers,

Why the producer don't give the majority what they want???? Even if the majority wants stupid things, the majority is always right!


Think about it carefully. Would it be THAT bad if they change the atma drop rate from 1% to 5%??? whould it be THAT bad if they changed the cost from 1500 to 100??

do this and you will never see a thread complaining about atma again.

People would have 9 Animus weapons lol...

I think SE wants us to focus heavily on one job.