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    Leira_Raine's Avatar
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    Talia Renton
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70

    The Binding Coil of Bahamut (T1 - T9) - Thoughts?

    Well, it's that time again...

    For the upcoming article on Eorzea's Voice (the column on Gamer Escape that focuses on player opinions) I would like to focus on Coil and its aspects. Of course, I need the players' help in creating such an insightful article about what Coil really is about.

    With that being said, I'd like to know the opinions of other players in regards to Coil. Do you have any stories to share? Or do you just have a quick thought about the concept or mechanics?

    Please, all opinions are welcome and many will be used for the article. Thank you!

    (I've also posted this on the blogs, and going to ask in-game for opinions)
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    C'est Vie ou Mort!

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    Luxx's Avatar
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    Cress Albane
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I'm a newbie of Coil so I have little to say.

    First off: I think they ruined T2.
    The Enrage thing is a "quick" method of bypassing all mechanics and basically a Heal spam fest as fast as you can
    with a DPS race to the finish. I'll never find out what Allagan's rot or whatever is first hand because no one wants to do it.
    Not even friends lol. I'm pretty upset. People claim this game is pretty easy and they find shortcuts to make things easier.
    SE said themselves it's not a "cheat" so it's pretty much allowed. They've wasted time making this turn because people
    bypass everything and make it easy. So you essentially sit bored for 10 mins till he Enrages...boring and sad.

    T3: I'm a healer, I qued, it takes me more than 30 mins it says to even do it. I was told it was just a fun run.
    Hahaha, a fun run. xD People don't do coil for fun. They do it to gear. [Imo...I do it for both.]
    So I'ma probably never know what goes on there.
    SE should make T3 useful in someway. I'd personally do it for materia making but y'know...No fun allowed.

    Imo.
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    Umbeliel's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Viola Cruxis
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 80
    All progression content- including our "alternatives" are locked behind Coil 2 which is unbelievably shitty.

    Coil on the whole is fun, but statics are incredibly old hat. At least, required statics.
    Will be happy when we have real endgame alternatives.
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    Delmontyb's Avatar
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I'm enjoying 1 and 2 at the moment, helping friends get geared up so we can tackle more of the turns.
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    Cessna's Avatar
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    Judge Justus
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 78
    Beat turn 6-7 this week steamrolled turn 6 turn 7 we struggled with for 2 days then beat it and now we are working on turn 8, last week we got avatar to allagan field, I'm hoping to beat it or get close by today. Can't wait to fight turn 9 I'm ready for the repeated wipe nights. WOOOO *blows tiny party favor*
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    jars's Avatar
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    Juni Esura
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    people keep thinking the burn method is a quick way to a t6 win

    they could not be more wrong
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    Gormogon's Avatar
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I enjoyed the first coil of bahamut because the community was willing to be patient and give time.

    Yet just like you could expect of difficult content. Secluded clubs formed and people's patience starting to run out. The community eventually becomes too toxic for end game environment and thus I avoid the second coil of bahamut. I tried turn 6 once little mistakes that are fixable but it was doable once people realized that getting down the mechanics is more important than dps itself. Sadly it was nothing but bickering and whining by the 3rd attempt which I expected. Nothing but "I don't wanna hear it", "It's your fault not mine", "omg we wont kill it with this group", "We don't have the DPS for this". A lot of this becomes the norm at end game when when difficulty leads to frustration. I don't blame people that want to get it done but it wont when patience is such a thin layer on players you end up grouping with.

    When raid difficulty consists of everyone needing to do their job then it means that it takes 1 person to block the rest from progression. To make matters worse gating story behind coil just sucks even more.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 05-24-2014 at 09:42 AM.

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    Sove92's Avatar
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
    IFirst off: I think they ruined T2.
    The Enrage thing is a "quick" method of bypassing all mechanics and basically a Heal spam fest as fast as you can
    with a DPS race to the finish. I'll never find out what Allagan's rot or whatever is first hand because no one wants to do it.
    Not even friends lol. I'm pretty upset. People claim this game is pretty easy and they find shortcuts to make things easier.
    SE said themselves it's not a "cheat" so it's pretty much allowed. They've wasted time making this turn because people
    bypass everything and make it easy. So you essentially sit bored for 10 mins till he Enrages...boring and sad.
    Any farm party worth its salt does it the normal way, because it only takes half the time than it does with the enrage. Try to get in one.
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Square didn't suddenly make enrage for Turn 2. It was always there. It just took people a while to discover it.
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Remember those good ol' days when people used to Put up a lot of coil parties in PF?
    I remember i got through coil 1-4 with pugs.
    There was barely any " give up after a few wipes" parties unless they were like the usual " know your role clear party".
    But the learning groups in PF is so toxic now, i hosted 1 group before and i had a few douché bags trying to hi jack my group as they kept trying to boot the ppl getting devoured. I didn't care cuz i knew they were learning like me, so i started to get agitated when one of then started saying the downsydrome in this group is real. Like wtf, who says that kind of shit in a learning group.
    Ppl are too toxic to play in non static groups now, because without statics they r trash and unable to work with others they r unfamilar with.
    I remember this attitude used to only show up on T5 but now it's T6. Ppl have no faith in T7,T8,T9 pugs.
    But i won't blame them too much for being scared cuz the content was only released for a few months.
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