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  1. #21
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    Snowaeth's Avatar
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    Snow Ball
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    The new meaning of being an elitist is giving any advice whatsoever (unless asked).
    You were an elitist because you gave advice.
    Do not give advice ever unless you'r specifically asked for it you elitist jerk!
    Oh and don't you dare saying anything in a tone that displeases me, because that makes you an elitist too.

    Now days people scream and shout if you point out that they could do something different/more optimal.
    Watching a youtube video of your class makes you a master at the class and doing things the way they were told in an outdated guide now, makes the people that are using more advanced tactics the ones in the wrong.
    Ohh and don't you dare exclude me out of your party because you plan to kill something within 15minutes, while I haven't even set a step inside the fight yet and can't dodge the 1st mechanic whatsoever.
    Also if I tell you my way is better and tell you how amazing I am because I did this content since last Monday, don't you dare telling me that my way isn't the best or that you've been doing this content since 2.0 launch, you dirty elitist with your e-peen showoff, I know it better than you and I'm better than you because I say so and don't care about your reasons.

    /sarcasm
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  2. #22
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    Yurika Huin
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    Gilgamesh
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    Fisher Lv 80
    I tried to give advice like you OP to a friend once, and while she didn't call me elitist, she basically shut down and stopped talking to me and after we realized she didn't care to improve - she was excluded out of our raid group. Now she barely logs in anymore.

    If people aren't willing to face consequences of their laziness and unwillingness to learn, let them go and move on. No point in banging head against a wall for someone with 0 motivation.
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  3. #23
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    Kahlane's Avatar
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    Kahlane Alexander
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    Famfrit
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Sometimes I don't understand people. I respect that you tried to help someone. What I've seen, people don't care how they treat people, because to them we're all characters on a screen.

    Anyways, what I'm trying to say, don't take offense over one persons attitude. You did good giving out advice.

    I always listen to others. Thinking perhaps they have a better way.

    I HATE TITAN with a passion....
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  4. #24
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    NyneAlexander's Avatar
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Velo_Vandore View Post
    On a side note, can I ask how on earth you guys can keep an eye on what other players are doing during a fight? ^^;; Have you always been able to or does it come from experience. Most fights I can just about concentrate on my own skills and avoiding aoe's, and have no idea what skills other people are using. Maybe it's more of a White Mage issue to try and not stare at the health bars so much?
    Once you are very familiar with a fight, its pretty easy to determine who is doing what, and being hit by various mechanics.
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  5. #25
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    Arcell's Avatar
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    Arc Jurado
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    No, you're not being elitist. You tried to help someone, it backfired. Unfortunately it happens but that's all you can really do. What bothers me more is people who don't try to help and just kick the person.
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  6. #26
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    Havesh Ravencrest
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    As I see it. The problem is with the person who decided it was elitist of you, and not the summoner who benefited from your advice (and thanked you for it). As you explain it, it was basically a third party who intervened when it wasn't necessary.
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  7. #27
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    Akira Ono
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    It feels like 'elitist' is just the word everyone uses when they feel inadequate about their performance in the game when it gets brought to their attention. Slightly exaggerated comments we see in game and on the forums all the time:

    My dps is leagues below everyone else? You're an elitist for pointing that out!

    I'm using a really bad rotation? It's just a game and you're an elitist for not letting me play how I want! I don't care if there's a enrage!

    Experience required in your PF? The fact that you don't let everyone run in blind and learn from 30 hours of wipes in a pre constructed party you're making is elitist!

    Requiring a voip for high level raids? Pure elitist.


    Yeesh.
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  8. #28
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    Jet'a Vahn
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    It is always a silly thing to give advice, but to give good advice is absolutely fatal.
    -- The Portrait Of Mr. W. H. (1889), p. 5.
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  9. #29
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    Urielparadox's Avatar
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    Character
    Smily Kweh
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Velo_Vandore View Post
    On a side note, can I ask how on earth you guys can keep an eye on what other players are doing during a fight? ^^;; ...
    what hp bar are you looking at? I'm decent on my whm but not no major experiance(all jobs 50 though). I have hp bars made visible above characters when they are below 100% hp, this means If I am looking at my battlefield and can see if anyone needs a cure(if they have a bar then they aren't at max) your main party bar shows you what your part is doing, their cast bar appears in the box(the one that has all8, pet, and companion in it). If they receive a buff/debuff the symbols will appear next to their name/casting bar. focus target bar is probably what you aren't using and should be. it's essentially a secondary target that helps you keep track of mob/other players and extremely useful to whm(usually used on their tank).I don't know what job your on, but sch doesn't really need to watch it cast bar all that much. Whm does a little bit, but just make your buffs bigger on your hud and you can see the cure proc appear in that.
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  10. #30
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    Denevieve Nebilim
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Chalk this up in the

    -gives helpful tip-

    -person who receives said tip snaps and goes Barret mode- books.

    "Cloud, don't tell me how the $&@!$&! play my job!"
    "But Barret I--"
    "$&!@ YOU"

    Nother peaceful day in Eorzea.

    Although it wasn't the person who took the tip but the shoe still fits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    It feels like 'elitist' is just the word everyone uses when they feel inadequate about their performance in the game when it gets brought to their attention. Slightly exaggerated comments we see in game and on the forums all the time:

    My dps is leagues below everyone else? You're an elitist for pointing that out!

    I'm using a really bad rotation? It's just a game and you're an elitist for not letting me play how I want! I don't care if there's a enrage!

    Experience required in your PF? The fact that you don't let everyone run in blind and learn from 30 hours of wipes in a pre constructed party you're making is elitist!

    Requiring a voip for high level raids? Pure elitist.


    Yeesh.
    Not just that were but also..

    Troll
    Homophobe
    Casual
    Whiner
    Fanboy

    Also words flung around carelessly.
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    Last edited by TeaTimeBear; 05-24-2014 at 02:18 AM.

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