Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[KarstenS]

I think SE plan is simple, they introduce BcoB, 20% of the players clear it with Ilvl 70, then CT locked, another 20% of the players clear BcoB, then they introduce SBcoB and open CT and BcoB, so 75% of the players clear BcoB and 20% clear SBcoB.

You are a little optimistic. Last week I did take a look at the PSN tropy for clearing T5. At this time 3,9% of the players got this trophy.

[Bigpurpleharness]

There must be a better, more constructive way to discuss this without insults and demeaning comments. Once again several parties here are only making themselves look bad and giving that old "raiders are elitist bigots" stereotype more credit. Please take a moment before you hit that post button and consider your words and how they will reflect upon you and the community.

FFXIV has an absolutely horrible community, it's pretty much like the AU and onwards crowd from XI. Don't expect reason or maturity here, ever. Ad hominems, slippery slopes, and strawmen abound here.

[wicked-one]

You are a little optimistic. Last week I did take a look at the PSN tropy for clearing T5. At this time 3,9% of the players got this trophy.

I am not sure, but maybe PSN Trophy´s don´t count the ones by PC-Gamers...

Percentages are quite useless in wrong context, and in our actual topic, i would also suggest that many people dont clear T5 cause many people even quit before even getting 50...

so i would say, throwing out numbers here is quite hypothetical, and not to taken to exact.

it´s like that old funny statistic which states that winning the lottery is more possible than getting attacked by a shark. but if you think about, how many potential lottery players there are (everyone on the plante with a few bucks in his pocket) against who is a potential shark victim (lucky people which live at/near the ocean, or on vacation) - there is a shift in the base parameters, which most don´t consider. Thus, making shark attacks statistically underrated...

[Ooshima]

Just because 1% can do it means nothing. It's possible to do almost everything in i90 but that doesn't mean it's something feasible for the large majority of players.

I'm wanting to push better gear out for other people so they can perform better, so it's easier for me to find groups that can successfully clear the new coil. As it stands, it's way too difficult to find competent people capable of doing in what they have now.

What worked for the first coil doesn't really work for the 2nd coil. In the first coil having better gear does scale better and bulldoze certain things. Like using the soft enrage mode on the second turn (T2). Even for T4, if you are lacking in DPS, if you had better gear your healers can heal you through even if it hit the soft enrage timer.

However, the second coil is largely different. There is no soft enrage, everything is hard enrage now. If you simply do not have the discipline in T7, you will never beat it even you had i110 gear. On T8 if you simply do not know your rotations to your fingertips, you simply will just die to the hard enrage because there is no soft enrage like T4 that you can heal through. Even the last turn is different. T5 every phase you only have to watch for 1 or 2 things at a time and there is little movements required, while T9 you are simply running here and there half of the time while watching for various mechanics and debuffs that comes at the same time.

The second coil demands your skills. It's not something that will be cheesed if you are decked in full i100 gear with a i110 weapon (if Novus is i110).

[Malekzus]

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