with this mindset the future looks dim

[AiChyan]

You're still taking the time to explain it.
Well, you cannot force one to watch a video, nor can you force one to tell you what to do, or explain.
We still have people doing T1 for example, screwing up 100 million times
and people just reiterate. I still explain to people anyways just because I guess I'm nice enough to do so.
Also, not going to apologize for not watching a video. Wtf? lol.No one is obligated to watch a video neither.
So now what lol.

There a major difference between "sorry not sure how i gained enmity here" - "it helps to use SoS" and "hi first time what do i do?!!!" - "well in the first phase ...." major difference.

There is a little difference between having read a detailed guide/watched a video and just have a few guide lines in the beginning of a new fight. I guess it would be the difference between being spoonfed and being served a meal.
You still have to figure out what the hell is happening to you in real time
As an example, I went in a moggle Ex group as a tank. No video, no guide, nothing. People just said "tank the kind, trade hate cuz stack, don't kill the adds". I still wiped us like a noob a dozen of times because I was late on trading, letting the adds having the damage buff, taking the meteor... Tons of fun really (joking here..).
Though it's true that there isn't much difference, as watching a video beforehand is about as useful as doing nothing. You know the big lines, and missed the tons of details which would allow you to do a proper job.

There is a difference between going in with a general idea of what to do and going in with zero knowledge. Those dozen of wipes would have been cut a bit had you went in with even minimal understanding of the fight. People will be happy to give you pointers and tips, but not when you go in knowing nothing and expecting them to explain to you what you could have pretty much known had you watched a video/read a guide.

[Dels]

So you want to go into the dungeon and have someone tell you what to do...as opposed to finding a website that tells you what to do.

That's really all this comes down to. There is absolutely no good reason for doing what you did.

[ispano]

Then you are godblessed with incredible knowledge/reflexes so that you can learn and master anything in under 2 tries, or you gave up on anything you failed to master in the same amount of time.

Or you are incredibly intolerant with people who are slower to learn than you.

Regardless of the reason, if the group is random, you're potentially taking up the time of people who know the fight to learn. That reason is the biggest reason I am the way I am, more so than wanting to push myself to get better. Also, if you learn slower than others, why not try to push yourself to notice things better or more quickly? There ARE things that a person can do to become better learners.

[Ryuko]

If you want to go into a fight blind, by all means feel free. My coil static likes to do a few blind run attempts on a new turn before looking up strategies, just for the fun of it. If you aren't running with a group of people you know, there's no obligation to have any knowledge of the fight. DF is DF, and people going into a DF group should know that it is possible they will get matched up with first-timers going into a fight blind.

But, you cannot say... "I like to go in blind" while at the same time saying other people should explain fights to you. There is no functional difference, in that sense, from looking up a strat online and asking people to explain. You aren't blind either way, because you knew exactly what to do beforehand. Whether that is a few minutes beforehand, or a few days after watching a video, is up to you. The only real difference is that you are expecting people (probably strangers) to explain the fight when you could have just as easily looked it up, thus using your time to research the fight and not forcing others to wait.

Now, I am not saying you did anything wrong. Wanting to go in blind is okay. But, please consider the time use of things before saying others were necessarily being mean. I teach people coil turns all the time, usually by giving a little speech beforehand... but in this situation, there really isn't a right or wrong... just difference of opinion, because you DID ask what to do. The other player didn't need to be that rude, but I understand where they are coming from. T4 isn't exactly hard, but depending on your role there is a lot to know (what order to kill things in, etc). Personally, I prefer to know what needs to get done before I enter a DF group, but I don't expect/assume others will.

[Emtron]

Get a FC or a link shell then you can avoid as many assholes on here like the plague. Just take comfort in the knowledge that people act tough on the internet because they can.

[Timethiuas]

In my experioence, watching a video before a fight does more harm than good. I find myself trying to remember what I saw and how it fits with what is going on instead of paying attention to what is actually happening. I prefer to go in and feel the environment and then I hav a frame of reference when I watch a video. I can't recall how many times I saw the Titan HM video before I went in. It still took me 65 runsto beat it and most of the fight never made sense for the first 30 even watching the videos ahead of time.

Even now, I still haven't beaten Titan EX. I watched a video but with no real frame of reference, i.e. doing it, I didn't know what was happening. Now that I have seen the majority of the fight, up to the adds, I can watch a video because it makes sense.

Not everyone can learn by watching. I am much better at learning while doing. Then I suppliment my learnign by watching a video or reading a guide after if I can't figure it out.

[Saccharin]

Tell me about it lol.
I play on PS3 tbh, I think it's just whoever being a butthead tbh. It's people always worrying about 'time' in this game so
we must know everything or get knocked upside the head.

And you are part of that toxic player base not bothering to look up any tacts because you want someone to tell you. That's lazy.

[Adiell]

People like the OP are the reason i don't run T4 anymore at all in DF, even with my mostly istant queue as a Tank.

If you don't want to spoil the fight for yourself or are against watching a guide for some weird reason, then make a Party Finder group on your server and do it that way with people like you.

Coil is not Sastasha or Copperbell Mine, you just can't go in blind and expect to rollface the content somehow. You won't beat the encounter and you'll waste other people time and also piss them off. This is especially true for Tanks and T4, since both MT and OT play a major role in that encounter, so much that going blind will result always in a waste of time and no kill.

The fact that you even felt entitled to make this kind of post is just hilarious to me.

[Kaskel2000]

One thing is this Duty Finder which is a random mechanism for putting parties together.As it is random then you should expect to go into a fight with any sort of player and not put any expectations on them. If you want a certain level of ability or knowledge or really any requirement then this is what party finder is for. At the same time though this is the top tier of duty finder content so going in completely blind in my opinion is not exactly acceptible as its our equivalent of top tier static content. I'm not suggesting everyone should watch a video but reading the key points of a fight should be the minimum. Again if you want to do coil completely blind then party finder is where it should be. FOr content on duty finder bellow this though this should not be an expectation as I said because its random. I always read or watch only because it makes me feel more comfertable but if its not top tier duty finder then there should be no expectations.

[DoubleT]

so let me get all this straight...

you have made it to lv50 pld, an still not figured it out that it is part of your job to know what your doing and lead the way?
you think your time is > 7 other peoples?
you think there is a difference between reading what someone says on a chatlog an what someone says on a website?
coil is /faceroll an requires no preparation at all?

sounds legit