Bard's DPS in endgame.

[ErnestoGiovanni]

Yoshi-P did say that Bard's DPS is lower to provide mobility. Actually that's not true but it sounds better than what really happened, there was a massive community outcry because Bard could top the DPS charts since they technically have no down time, they can attack and move on dodge heavy fights despite their toolkit being only fairly limited for a DPS, so all weapons in the Bard's armory had their innate damage lowered so they can never really top the DPS charts unless they are constantly spamming abilities and everyone else is busy running around.

[fanservice]

so all weapons in the Bard's armory had their innate damage lowered so they can never really top the DPS charts unless they are constantly spamming abilities and everyone else is busy running around.

Excuse the ignorance due to hiatus, but this actually happened? When?

[AkashiXI]

Excuse the ignorance due to hiatus, but this actually happened? When?

The first major rebalance after 2.1 nerfed Bard's Bloodletter and Misery (I think?), along with our cross class abilities (bfb and internal release having less potency). This was the same patch with the WAR buffs, Copperbell/Haukke Manor HM, and Crystal Tower.

[fanservice]

The first major rebalance after 2.1 nerfed Bard's Bloodletter and Misery (I think?), along with our cross class abilities (bfb and internal release having less potency). This was the same patch with the WAR buffs, Copperbell/Haukke Manor HM, and Crystal Tower.

Yeah I did clearly notice the BFB and IR readjustments. The bloodletter and miser end nerfs went over my head if that actually happened.

[Taban]

Yeah I did clearly notice the BFB and IR readjustments. The bloodletter and miser end nerfs went over my head if that actually happened.

The bloodletter nerf was just a tooltip error iirc. Nothing got changed, but people freaked out for a bit since it happened at the same time that the bfb and ir nerf went in.

IMO the reason for the bard nerf (and all the people thinking bard was super OP) was Titan HM. A large portion of the community was stuck on that fight at the time, and it was messing up most of the other classes because of the amount of movement involved. Once people started getting into coil bards fell behind because they didn't scale as well as the other classes. I'm hoping we get a small buff at some point in the future, especially with blm's getting buffed in the next patch.

[Jim_Berry]

The bloodletter nerf was just a tooltip error iirc. Nothing got changed, but people freaked out for a bit since it happened at the same time that the bfb and ir nerf went in.

IMO the reason for the bard nerf (and all the people thinking bard was super OP) was Titan HM. A large portion of the community was stuck on that fight at the time, and it was messing up most of the other classes because of the amount of movement involved. Once people started getting into coil bards fell behind because they didn't scale as well as the other classes. I'm hoping we get a small buff at some point in the future, especially with blm's getting buffed in the next patch.

I'm fine with how BRD is. Many BRDs forget that they play a support role as well. Many BRDs even admit to not wanting to use Paeon or Ballad.

[Taban]

I'm fine with how BRD is. Many BRDs forget that they play a support role as well. Many BRDs even admit to not wanting to use Paeon or Ballad.

We aren't the only class with support, nor are we a pure support job I'd trade Paeon for battle rez in a heartbeat =p

DPS classes should be (somewhat) balanced, having a few noticeably ahead of others just isn't good design.

[VallisRaine]

The first major rebalance after 2.1 nerfed Bard's Bloodletter and Misery (I think?), along with our cross class abilities (bfb and internal release having less potency). This was the same patch with the WAR buffs, Copperbell/Haukke Manor HM, and Crystal Tower.

Bloodletter and misery weren't changed at all the Aoe buff from Rain of death was though instead of what was it -10% enemy def now its -10% enemy evasion which is kinda worthless but yea bfb and release got weakened as cross class.

Also yea your dps will be lower then Mele idk why smn is out dpsing you unless your full timing Foe like you said then that would explain it. songs cause -10% dps for you right off the bat.

[Geobryn]

Also yea your dps will be lower then Mele idk why smn is out dpsing you unless your full timing Foe like you said then that would explain it. songs cause -10% dps for you right off the bat.

foe does NOT decrease dmg
MP and TP songs decrease it by 20%

[VallisRaine]

foe does NOT decrease dmg
MP and TP songs decrease it by 20%

lmao you got me i didn't look at it right