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    Ecosmith's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketsuyame View Post
    You want things to be handed to you. Spoon fed if you will. The bread and butter of ALL MMO's I to grind dungeons for gear. If you can't get with that, I'm pretty sure there's a few copies of LR:FFXIII out there for you.
    Once upon a time, the bread and butter of car manufacturing and purchase was the Model T Ford. Thankfully, we've moved beyond that now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecosmith View Post
    Once upon a time, the bread and butter of car manufacturing and purchase was the Model T Ford. Thankfully, we've moved beyond that now.
    But cars still have four wheels and a steering wheel 100 years later.
    Things can advance (instanced content, solo content, endless side quests) but the core remains the same.
    MMO tourists (people that flit from game to game but never spending significant time at endgame) want the games to be changed to suit their playstyle. The people that pay the subs for extended periods of time spend the time at endgame and part of the fun of playing the game is earning new gear and doing challenging content. Without that population a MMO is doomed to failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnova View Post
    But cars still have four wheels and a steering wheel 100 years later.
    Things can advance (instanced content, solo content, endless side quests) but the core remains the same.
    MMO tourists (people that flit from game to game but never spending significant time at endgame) want the games to be changed to suit their playstyle. The people that pay the subs for extended periods of time spend the time at endgame and part of the fun of playing the game is earning new gear and doing challenging content. Without that population a MMO is doomed to failure.
    I don't like to spend significant time at emdgame, and I spent 8 years happily paying a monthly sub in Coty of Heroes. I had 37 alts, just 3 of them were at the level cap, and only 1 of those was my 'endgame content' toon, who did the repeatable raids etc for the acheivements. There was nothing 'tourist' about me then. CoH was still makingba profit when NCSoft killed it, just prior to their launch of GW2.

    It's frustrating to me that endgame raid fans seem utterly unable to comprehend that adding stuff to cater for altitis types like me doesn't mean they get to lose out. How many times do I have to say I'm on the same side as you? I will fight to the death for your right to grind raids at the level cap. I just think that an MMO that can turn a 'tourist' into a longtime subscription payer by offering a wider range of goodies will be far less likely to fail.
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    Thera Logo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecosmith View Post
    Once upon a time, the bread and butter of car manufacturing and purchase was the Model T Ford. Thankfully, we've moved beyond that now.
    Yet the assembly line which was invited for the Model T is still in use today.
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