Ethics and Manners for FF14

[zaviermhigo]

You know, I always had a problem when people said that FFXI's community was so much better.

It was built around the fact that people are vindictive, and that you're more or less stuck with your character and name throughout your playtime in Vana'diel. People simply weren't direct when they wanted to be douches. Party sucks and you want to leave? Unplug. Other HNM LS showed up? Spam some emotes, crowd around the spawn area, get a bot, try to make smallchat with their main claimer, cheer the monster on when he's kicking their ass, etc. Someone slighted you in an exp/merit/whatever party 2 months ago? Bar him from your group/LS. Someone barely mentions another MMO? Start freaking out calling them noobs/casuals/bads/whatever. Someone didn't play the flavor of the month/season DD class? Worthless player.

FFXI players were very petty and vindictive.

I'm not sure if you were agreeing with or diasgreeing but thats what Im saying. Some Xi players were nicer though, like no one in this game would stop to heal you if you were soloing and dying, but someone in XI would stop watch you, see how you're doing and throw a cure if they were appropriate class, maybe even /cheer if you won. But there were elitist assholes in xi, and there were people who were "ME ME ME ME" in xi, and those people switched over to XIV in the end, cause they couldn't handle not being the center of god damn attention lol.

[Dreamer]

I'm not sure if you were agreeing with or diasgreeing but thats what Im saying. Some Xi players were nicer though, like no one in this game would stop to heal you if you were soloing and dying, but someone in XI would stop watch you, see how you're doing and throw a cure if they were appropriate class, maybe even /cheer if you won. But there were elitist assholes in xi, and there were people who were "ME ME ME ME" in xi, and those people switched over to XIV in the end, cause they couldn't handle not being the center of god damn attention lol.

The "ME ME ME ME" mentality has been an issue in MMORPGs ever since the average player age began dropping; it's not really a problem unique to FFXI. However, there are games where it's not as noticable. For example, I've always found the commnuity in City of Heroes to be simply fantastic, and LotRO's community was quite possibly the best I've seen up until they went F2P.

For what it's worth, however, the community I've seen in-game is much more pleasant than what we see here on the official forums.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

The "ME ME ME ME" mentality has been an issue in MMORPGs ever since the average player age began dropping

Not really true most meme people are adults from what I've seen. They feel things are owed to them for their hard work.

Age/maturity are not the same.

(sorry i hate when people blame kids for everything with immaturaty

[Dreamer]

Not really true most meme people are adults from what I've seen. They feel things are owed to them for their hard work.

Age/maturity are not the same.

(sorry i hate when people blame kids for everything with immaturaty

In my personal experience, there's a pretty substantial link. In my old WoW guild, 90% of our 'problem' members were in the 13-19 range. And one 40-something, but he was the exception, not the rule. I'm quite aware that age and maturity are two separate things, but saying there's no link between the two is far off the mark.

[Vanguard319]

Not really true most meme people are adults from what I've seen. They feel things are owed to them for their hard work.

Age/maturity are not the same.

(sorry i hate when people blame kids for everything with immaturaty

lol, you pretty much described my father there, 65, Vietnam Vet, has the attitude where he is holier than thou, and generally a total uncaring bastard to all because he thinks he is owed something. Yet he doesn't even have half the morality as he thinks he has.

So yeah, physical maturity does not equal mentally mature, nor does it guarantee that you're capable of rational thought.