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    After looking at your site and progression on it, you're possibly one of the worst non-native FC's (in terms of progression) recruiting here. Grats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbles View Post
    After looking at your site and progression on it, you're possibly one of the worst non-native FC's (in terms of progression) recruiting here. Grats.
    Why? Because we aren't "hardcore/elite"? Because we prefer to remain smaller? Because we just started T6? Could it be possible that because our raid teams only raid 2x /wk that our progression is a bit slower than an fc that raids 4-7x a week?

    From the forums on your server, there are people still stuck on T5, FC's needing a merge, players looking for late night raiding, a raid grp that needs raiders badly enough to only require i80, etc.

    So, it would appear that your server has some people that could possibly be interested in what we have going on here. We aren't stuck on T5, we're active/progressive enough to not need a merge, we offer late night raiding, and our raid groups (both of them) are geared i90+.

    Don't get mad because we have something to offer that it seems would be of interest to the people of your server. We're just putting an option out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynym View Post
    Why? Because we aren't "hardcore/elite"? Because we prefer to remain smaller? Because we just started T6? Could it be possible that because our raid teams only raid 2x /wk that our progression is a bit slower than an fc that raids 4-7x a week?
    *other things you said*
    Quote Originally Posted by Vynym View Post
    [*]WEEKEND RAIDING - Sat & Sun 2pm -6pm EST[*]OVERNIGHT RAIDING - Mon & Tues 1230a-330a EST
    *cough-four days-cough*

    I honestly can care less about what your FC's philosophy is, to me it's just terrible excuses as to why you aren't doing content.


    "From the forums on your server, there are people still stuck on T5, FC's needing a merge, players looking for late night raiding, a raid grp that needs raiders badly enough to only require i80, etc. "
    -There was one person who posted about being stuck on t5.
    -Besides me posting about <RR>(which was posted after you posted this thread), who may not even want to merge into anyone that isn't WMN/Rise, the only posts about merging are into Zalerian FCs in which they want two small fcs to merge so they have like 20-30 members or something.
    -The player looking for a late night progression group is from levi
    -Maybe the raid group wants people i80 minimum instead of i90 because they want to progress as a team, also people in that group(if you're refering to <CA>) are mostly between i80-i90 so it's even more understandable that they wouldn't want some i90-i100 players in there group. The other i80 group <LiMo> is willing to gear people up for second coil.


    The thing that I found most funny, and the reason I posted, was that a fresh FC came to Zalera (and apparently Zodiark and Ultros) to recruit. You're right though, you are providing people the option of paying 18 dollars to xfer into the same situation when they could just join an FC on Zalera like <LiMO> who seems to be providing more than your fc does.

    By the way, you probably shouldn't advertise as a Progression FC when the only progression you've made is on t5 with echo buffs being out for a few weeks (Your website indicates that last saturday was your first down)

    TL;DR: From just reading Zalerian forums, it's better to join <LiMo> if you're on zalera since they offer more than this FC and you don't have to pay 18 dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobbles View Post
    *cough-four days-cough*
    Two separate raid teams that each only raid 2 days a week. COUGH.

    Just because we got a later start on content does NOT mean we AREN'T progressive. It means we started late. Further, there are still people that can't get past T5 even WITH the echo, so your argument there is weak. Regardless, echo or not, we've PROGRESSED past it in only 3 attempts I might add. Just because our raid leaders didn't want a gimpy geared team going in there and waited for everyone to gear up with new 2.2 stuff does NOT make us non-progressive or weak, it makes us smart. Work smarter, not harder.

    You're just making yourself look like a jerk attacking people for no reason. You can go eat your elitist cupcakes elsewhere.

    PS >> Thanks for continually responding with your asshatty attitude because every time you do, you bump the thread thereby giving us more exposure. And, as an added bonus, others get to see what a bad attitude you have as well. Anyone reading this thread and thinking you're a cool guy is not someone we'd want in our fc anyway. So, again, thanks for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynym View Post
    Two separate raid teams that each only raid 2 days a week. COUGH.

    Just because we got a later start on content does NOT mean we AREN'T progressive. It means we started late.

    Sorry you're actually right. You guys are progressing, just because you decided to wait for i90+ gear and an echo buff to down t5 is no excuse for me to bash you guys or say 100% true statements such as "you're possibly one of the worst non-native FC's (in terms of progression) recruiting here. Grats.". I should've just replied to your reply with, "because it's true" instead of saying your reasons to post here are terrible and you need crutches to down content

    Further, there are still people that can't get past T5 even WITH the echo, so your argument there is weak.

    Yeah there's also people still leveling up to 50 so, good, uhh, point?

    Regardless, echo or not, we've PROGRESSED past it in only 3 attempts I might add. Just because our raid leaders didn't want a gimpy geared team going in there and waited for everyone to gear up with new 2.2 stuff does NOT make us non-progressive or weak, it makes us smart. Work smarter, not harder.

    Well that's kinda not true. You guys (or atleast you as your join date on the forums indicates - "Join Date : Aug 2013") obviously decided to wait for the content to become easier (through gear and echo buff) before you decided to progress past it.

    You're just making yourself look like a jerk attacking people for no reason. You can go eat your elitist cupcakes elsewhere.
    Sorz, I'll take my cupcakes to Zalera, since you know, it's actually the world I play on.

    Also early when you were talking about Zalera's forums, "a raid grp that needs raiders badly enough to only require i80", seemed like a pretty asshole/elitist statement to me, so you want some of my cupcakes?


    PS >> Thanks for continually responding with your asshatty attitude because every time you do, you bump the thread thereby giving us more exposure. And, as an added bonus, others get to see what a bad attitude you have as well. Anyone reading this thread and thinking you're a cool guy is not someone we'd want in our fc anyway. So, again, thanks for that

    Sorry, not trying to give the impression of caring what others think of me on this forum, just trying to not lower the pop of Zalera more by having them spend 18 dollars to go to some trash fc.

    Also, np for the bumps, friend.

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    Stop scaring away people wobbles111!
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    *Eyeroll* We weren't waiting for it to get easier, we were waiting for minimum accuracy requirements on our members and to fill out our raid team with permanent members. There aren't many people who like the weekend days raiding schedule, so it was slow growing the fc/raid team. Nice of you to comment when you don't have all the facts because you have no person knowledge of what you're talking about.


    Further, AGAIN, just because our progress is behind some others (because we're adults with families and lives to tend to a majority of our free time) doesn't mean we're the "worst" anything. It means we worked hard for what we've got. And your personal opinion is just that, personal opinion and worth about nothing since everyone has one.

    As for my join date, yes I've played since beta. But because I can only raid weekend days, I was unable to find a raid group that has exclusively that schedule until this fc here. So it indicates nothing except I've got a terrible schedule.

    The i80 comment wasn't elitist. Coil turns all require a minimum/ideal level of accuracy to maximize player performance (i.e not missing hits). That increases with higher turns. Therefore, a higher ilvl is required. So, when a group is seeking ilvl 80, that means they are starting out. Are you going to go call them crap on their forum too? Because omg they MUST have waited for echo. They MUST be crap b/c they are so far behind you personally in progression. (sarcasm intended)

    It's nice that you want to come troll me, but there are many on your server forums here that these same comments you've made to us could apply to. Why not go drop your load there too? Or are you afraid b/c you have to play with these people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynym View Post
    *Eyeroll* We weren't waiting for it to get easier, we were waiting for minimum accuracy requirements on our members and to fill out our raid team with permanent members. There aren't many people who like the weekend days raiding schedule, so it was slow growing the fc/raid team. Nice of you to comment when you don't have all the facts because you have no person knowledge of what you're talking about.

    You're right. I have ZERO knowledge of your fc. Wanna know why? This is the Zalera forum. Everything I've learned about your fc was learned from your post and your join date. Why should I care about your fc enough to look into your history when you aren't even on this server? The things I see from your post are that you've been around since last Aug and just recently cleared t5(using i90+ gear and echo buff).


    Further, AGAIN, just because our progress is behind some others (because we're adults with families and lives to tend to a majority of our free time) doesn't mean we're the "worst" anything. It means we worked hard for what we've got. And your personal opinion is just that, personal opinion and worth about nothing since everyone has one.
    Why don't you read what I said? "you're possibly one of the worst non-native FC's (in terms of progression) recruiting here. Grats." You're the worst progressed FC who isn't on Zalera to recruit here. Every other group has cleared more content that has recruited here from other worlds.

    As for my join date, yes I've played since beta. But because I can only raid weekend days, I was unable to find a raid group that has exclusively that schedule until this fc here. So it indicates nothing except I've got a terrible schedule.

    The i80 comment wasn't elitist. Coil turns all require a minimum/ideal level of accuracy to maximize player performance (i.e not missing hits). That increases with higher turns. Therefore, a higher ilvl is required. So, when a group is seeking ilvl 80, that means they are starting out. Are you going to go call them crap on their forum too? Because omg they MUST have waited for echo. They MUST be crap b/c they are so far behind you personally in progression. (sarcasm intended)
    One of the groups that is looking for i80 people are willing to gear them up and have them grow with their group. But I guess gearing up for SCoBT1 takes a group months to do still? No, I'm not going to go to some other worlds forums and call them out, because I don't play on their world and everything they do is irrelevant to me. As for groups on my server just clearing t5, I'm not going to call them out either, because they are on Zalera and are relevant to the world I play on.

    It's nice that you want to come troll me, but there are many on your server forums here that these same comments you've made to us could apply to. Why not go drop your load there too? Or are you afraid b/c you have to play with these people?

    You came to the world I play on to recruit for your FC that just seems like a waste of money to xfer to. I'm not afraid of anyone on my server and I don't play with any of them as I mostly play with people in my static/fc
    Quote Originally Posted by AtticusEx View Post
    Hey there,

    As a part of this FC, I figured I would just chime in with my 2 cents (for whatever it's worth).
    Another irrelevant post as you don't play on this world.

    Statikos Circulus is a fun guild to be a part of. It's member are laid back, and cool to hang around with. Furthermore, Vynym is an incredibly skilled and dedicated player who works hard to ensure that all of our FC members can enjoy the content of the game. Our recruitment efforts on other servers are merely an attempt to find other players who share the same work/life circumstances and would be willing to join.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/652-Companies

    This is simply a recruitment thread. Ad hominem attacks on the quality of our guild are unnecessary. If you are not interested in joining, that`s perfectly fine - the post was not intended for you. If you are available on the weekends, and are interested in the FC environment/culture described above, we would be more than happy to have you along
    I'm unsure of how this post was not meant for me? I play on Zalera and you came to this forum even though you don't play on this world.

    Thank You

    Quote Originally Posted by Vynym View Post
    I didn't mean that in a derogatory way.

    Honestly.

    What I mean was that you're obviously seeking newer raiders (which is awesome) for the very reasons you posted. But according to wobbles here, fc's that are behind in content (which if you are needing ilvl 80 raiders you aren't in coil 2) are crap because they had to wait for echo, had to wait for gear, had to wait for "content to get easier" (according to him anyway).
    It's less impressive when someone downs content when they outgear it. It's disgusting when those people try to get players to pay 18 dollars to xfer to a guild that markets that as an accomplishment on other worlds. Also atleast in <LiMo>'s case, they aren't some scumbag wannabee elitist group that only takes i90 or higher and they're actually willing to help players gear up for their raids

    My point is was why would he deem our raid group craptastic when there are others on your server in the same position and yet I see no inflammatory postings on any of your threads calling your groups/fcs terrible, the worst, etc.
    It's impossible for those groups to be : "you're possibly one of the worst non-native FC's (in terms of progression) recruiting here.", so why would I say that?

    Honestly, if it was the consensus that you'd prefer not to have people from other servers coming here with options for people on your server, then all he would have had to say is, "Pardon me, but we'd prefer you not recruit here. Would you consider deleting the thread?" instead of getting ugly.
    I guess Roxa's thread about Exkalibur coming here and policing our forums from March was meant as a "Come post on our forums non-Zalerians". Or every other non-Zalera recruitment thread getting spammed with gifs (RIP shwing :/)

    And if that IS in fact the case, we're likely not a threat to taking many of your population, as I've yet to see any other fc's that offer daytime, weekend raiding exclusively. So, unless your server is overflowing with people that can only raid on weekend afternoons, I'm sure we're not going to be doing any of you any harm by making ourselves an option for the few with that terrible schedule (I'm one of those that have that terrible "I can only raid on weekend days" schedules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globie View Post
    Is your server losing players also? Why come here to advertise your fc? are you having a hard time recruiting in Adamantoise?

    You're in CR right! I was in your fc for like an hour or something after sig from WMN kicked me for making fun of him in mumble. I miss your house :/
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