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  1. #41
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    Iam Groot
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    I wouldn't bother making a BiS list with parry being the focus either. That is still up for debate.
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  2. #42
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    Khazrak Crotharg
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    I wouldn't bother making a BiS list with parry being the focus either. That is still up for debate.
    The debate for/against parry is primarily focused around paladins, for warriors there is still no better secondary stat since we lack the mitigation of the shield. The reasoning behind this is without a shield the stat weight of parry is increased as warriors will use 100% of every parry they get as they do not have a block to over write it.

    Unless testing shows the scaling for the other stats are better then the scaling for parry if your planning on taking a bunch of damage go parry. If you are OT and want to be dealing damage then start worrying about other secondary stats.
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    Last edited by Khazrak; 04-29-2014 at 06:06 AM.

  3. #43
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    T'lohwin Tia
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Assuming your healers are on point for the spike damage mechanics (Ravensbeak / Juggernaughts / 3-tank mines) I'm not sure if I would prioritize VIT accessories in my best in slot list. I have downed Turns 6-8 in I90 DPS accessories with I100 Soldiery helm & Body, and High Allagan Gloves. This includes solo tanking T8.

    The only issue I have encountered thus far is Ravensbeak and realistically our paladin can just take every single one... and if he couldn't then a Stoneskin / Adil plus treating it like Death Sentence would be fine.

    The Second Coil of Bahamut does not seem to contain anything that would require the vast amount of health that VIT accessories seem to give. I would pose that it is better to gain more DPS and hit the 27% parry breakpoint than to have a greater pool of Effective Health that isn't really necessary.

    My Best-in-Slot list would be this for Post T9:
    High Allagan Battleaxe
    Noct Circlet
    Noct Lorica
    High Allagan Gauntlets of Fending
    Noct Plate Belt
    High Allagan Trousers of Fending
    High Allagan Sabatons of Fending
    Gloam Choker
    Gloam Earrings
    High Allagan Bracelets of Slaying
    Gloam Ring
    High Allagan Ring of Fending

    Assuming Apkallu Omelette HQ:
    290 Vitality
    155 Parry
    285 Strength
    182 Accuracy
    96 Critical Hit Rate
    19 Skill Speed
    82 Determination
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  4. #44
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    Iam Groot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazrak View Post
    The debate for/against parry is primarily focused around paladins, for warriors there is still no better secondary stat since we lack the mitigation of the shield. The reasoning behind this is without a shield the stat weight of parry is increased as warriors will use 100% of every parry they get as they do not have a block to over write it.

    Unless testing shows the scaling for the other stats are better then the scaling for parry if your planning on taking a bunch of damage go parry. If you are OT and want to be dealing damage then start worrying about other secondary stats.
    No the debate is that parry doesn't give you enough to be worth stacking, and that the increased damage is better for the amount of secondary stats that you can obtain.
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  5. #45
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    Audrey Lovie
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 50
    My personal bis

    High allagan battle axe
    Noct helm
    High allagan chest
    High allagan gloves
    High allagan belt
    High allagan pants
    Noct boots

    High allagan neck of slaying
    High allagan earring of slaying
    High allagan bracelets of slaying
    High allagan ring of slaying
    Gloam ring

    Strength - 564 (In a party with a melee dps)
    Critical Rate - 458
    Determination - 308 (With Black Truffle Risottos)
    Skill Speed - 354
    Parry - I honestly do not care about this stat on my warrior.
    Accuracy - 515
    HP 8430 in Defiance (With Black Truffle Risottos)
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    Last edited by TheTank; 05-16-2014 at 11:05 AM. Reason: Spelling and added more secondary Stats

  6. #46
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    Bokchoy Mcnuggets
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTank View Post
    My personal bis

    High allagan battle axe
    Noct helm
    High allagan chest
    High allagan gloves
    High allagan belt
    High allagan pants
    Not boots

    High allagan neck of slaying
    High allagan earring of slaying
    High allagan bracelets of slaying
    High allagan ring of slaying
    Gloam ring

    Accuracy - 515
    HP 8430 in defiance with risotto.
    I agree completely with this BiS list. Unfortnately, I won't be getting any H.A. Slaying accessories until both our Monk and Dragoon have them.
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  7. #47
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    Yeah this is a p good list ^.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bokchoykn View Post
    I agree completely with this BiS list. Unfortnately, I won't be getting any H.A. Slaying accessories until both our Monk and Dragoon have them.
    Haha. We only have 1 melee dps so it'll be faster for me ><

    High allagan battle axe
    Noct helm
    High allagan chest
    High allagan gloves

    High allagan belt
    High allagan pants
    Noct boots

    High allagan neck of slaying
    High allagan earring of slaying
    High allagan bracelets of slaying
    High allagan ring of slaying

    Gloam ring

    Just need those pieces in bold!
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  9. #49
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    God damn you, you have the axe!!

    I have the Heavy H.A. Coat.

    I don't know if I'm going to get Noct Helm and Boots because I have H.Allagan already. If I have the Sands and Soldiery, I may as well spend it on a different class, like Monk. Haha.
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    Last edited by bokchoykn; 05-16-2014 at 04:24 PM.

  10. #50
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    Audrey Lovie
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    Quote Originally Posted by bokchoykn View Post
    God damn you, you have the axe!!

    I have the Heavy H.A. Coat.

    I don't know if I'm going to get Noct Helm and Boots because I have H.Allagan already. If I have the Sands and Soldiery, I may as well spend it on a different class, like Monk. Haha.
    Haha, yeap, got lucky.
    I like gearing up my main more >< trying to get a higher DPS parse for T8!
    We only need 2 sands though, if your BIS is the same as mine.
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