Vote Kick abuse really needs to end.

[Blackweaver]

Did anyone else catch this little detail in Support Desk?

Meaning SE has given their blessing to bullying new players to skip cutscenes, kicks allowed. PF party is one thing, but this is for duty finder.

Wow... that is wrong. So a random roulette then can pop, and the tank can say "Alright I am here to get the healer robe that drops in here. If the healer rolls on it, we will vote kick you out". Random Roulette shouldn't be allowing such. These are random people who never met before. The high levels who already did the dungeon, shouldn't have a right to bully the players who are doing the dungeon for the very first time and want to experience the dungeon as it was meant to be played, cutscenes and all. Fine then, SE, make it so CM and Prae's cutscenes cannot be skipped at all. This way, it cuts out the bullying by the bullying elite.

[Foo01]

And now Foo01 has proven Godwin's Law.

Technically, I've not mentioned the "H" person, or the "N" word. So no that has not been proven at least not by me.

See:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...Godwin%27s+Law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

I have not called anyone the "H" or any group of people the "N".

Actually for reference see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic
The majority that was the answer to the question was the Germans of the Weimar republic.

[Velocy]

Did anyone else catch this little detail in Support Desk?

Meaning SE has given their blessing to bullying new players to skip cutscenes, kicks allowed. PF party is one thing, but this is for duty finder.

Hello Sove,
I got the exactly same text today from the Support. I attended Duty Roulette Expert as White Mage and got into Brayflox Longstop with a WAR and 2 BLM. After the 2nd Boss I was kicked out of the group. I neither harassed someone, went afk or have been offline. So I reported them to the Ingame Support and got the same text as answer. So basicly SquareEnix just gave the Absolution to vote kick Players from the group that have different Goals then you.

[Amberion]

Why do the newbie decide over the entire group?

Let's reverse the situation that some of you have brought up.

It's now the newbie who wants to speed run the dungeon, the others are against him. Does the newbie still decide? If not, why? The newbie is still as new as he was in the other example.

[Cap75]

Technically, I've not mentioned the "H" person, or the "N" word. So no that has not been proven at least not by me.

See:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...Godwin%27s+Law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

I have not called anyone the "H" or any group of people the "N".

Right... you simply compared getting kicked from a group in a video game to the Civil Rights Movement, Women's Suffrage and the Holocaust. The purpose the Godwin meme is to point out inappropriate hyperbole. I think that qualifies.

[Foo01]

Why do the newbie decide over the entire group?

Let's reverse the situation that some of you have brought up.

It's now the newbie who wants to speed run the dungeon, the others are against him. Does the newbie still decide? If not, why? The newbie is still as new as he was in the other example.

Show me a newbie that knows about the speed runs and are geared appropriately? By the time they are geared for it, they are not newbies. So this hypothetical is pointless. And if they are not and they want to do it, they just get themselves wiped, if not the whole group. I've been a healer for said tanks on brayflox normal and seen this kind of crap happen plenty.

The answer is no one decides, the dungeon decides for you. LOL.

[Foo01]

Right... you simply compared getting kicked from a group in a video game to the Civil Rights Movement, Women's Suffrage and the Holocaust. The purpose the Godwin meme is to point out inappropriate hyperbole. I think that qualifies.

It is not a hyperbole, because we are comparing the definition of majorities. The fact that these majorities did stupid or bad things or the degree of which they did them is not the point of comparison. I am only demonstrating to the monkey butts for brains that majority does not decide right or wrong.

[SDaemon]

It is not a hyperbole, because we are comparing the definition of majorities. The fact that these majorities did stupid or bad things or the degree of which they did them is not the point of comparison. I am only demonstrating to the monkey butts for brains that majority does not decide right or wrong.

That may be so and I agree that majority doesn't equate to being right. But the comparison was still in bad taste.

[Velocy]

Just a little update. I've replied to the support and stated, that the vote kick Feature was applied to remove People who Harass others, be afk or offline... also I said, that in the letter of the Producer or the patch notes, it was stated that the abuse of the vote kick Feature would be handled by the support. None of the possible reasons to vote kick applied to me, and I was still kicked without any talk or notice, so I account this as an abuse.

Now I got another reply which states that the case will be investigated and that the support takes Actions if they find inappropriate behavior.

Strange... why not in first place?

[Foo01]

Just a little update. I've replied to the support and stated, that the vote kick Feature was applied to remove People who Harass others, be afk or offline... also I said, that in the letter of the Producer or the patch notes, it was stated that the abuse of the vote kick Feature would be handled by the support. None of the possible reasons to vote kick applied to me, and I was still kicked without any talk or notice.

Now I got another reply which states that the case will be investigated and that the support takes Actions if they find inappropriate behavior.

Strange... why not in first place?

First reply is the systems automatic reply. The second means they are actually going to do something about it. I've chatted with GMs in person and explained things in person after reporting the vote kick abusers. It takes them a while because man power is limited. So some of those get away with it, but it is not absolution. It is just those jerks getting lucky. Just like not all speed demons speeding on the freeway gets tickets.