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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    the only way to make CT relevan if its drop Sands (randomly in any boss so tanks dont fish for last 1) , and u can loot once a week....farming CT2 over and over fighting against other ppl for 1 item /popcorn
    Sands, yes, that would be nice.
    But even then CT2 will be less than irrelevant if the gear itself is anything below ilevel 105.

    When CT1 was released where most people were still <-ilevel80 and had never even set foot in Coil, most of them had 1 maybe 2 Myth pieces as the first bulk went into upgrading their relic weapons to Zenith.
    By the time they release CT2 most players will already have ilevel 100+ in most gearslots because Soldiery doesn't have another vital sink and with the vertical progression this game has people aren't going to accept just sidegrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    Sands, yes, that would be nice.
    But even then CT2 will be less than irrelevant if the gear itself is anything below ilevel 105.

    When CT1 was released where most people were still <-ilevel80 and had never even set foot in Coil, most of them had 1 maybe 2 Myth pieces as the first bulk went into upgrading their relic weapons to Zenith.
    By the time they release CT2 most players will already have ilevel 100+ in most gearslots because Soldiery doesn't have another vital sink and with the vertical progression this game has people aren't going to accept just sidegrades.
    I think they would, especially if they looked cool for glamours. How is it irrelevant if it's below 105? I would be very happy to gear up my Alts without having to share Soldiery. A lot of people also do fights for the content and don't see loot as their only sole deciding motivation to do it.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    I think they would, especially if they looked cool for glamours. How is it irrelevant if it's below 105? I would be very happy to gear up my Alts without having to share Soldiery.
    When CT1 was released the game was only 3 months old and most players had barely started saving up mythology for their first job making CT a good alternative for step up gear between Darklight and Mythology.
    Now however everyone has been collecting soldiery gear since day 1 of the patch that implemented it and without anything else to spend it on gear up a lot faster.

    By the time CT2 is released a lot of people are most likely already spending soldiery on their secondary jobs.

    A lot of people also do fights for the content and don't see loot as their only sole deciding motivation to do it.
    If it's for the first, second time and third, maybe.
    But noone's going to run content countless of times if there's absolutely nothing to gain from it.
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  4. #44
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    I do not understand what the point of CT2 dropping i95 gear would be. It would be absolutely pointless except for vanity purposes. If they want to make this new content relevant, so that people actually want to run it, they need to provide gear that is worth doing it week after week, and i95 sure ain't it.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    When CT1 was released the game was only 3 months old and most players had barely started saving up mythology for their first job making CT a good alternative for step up gear between Darklight and Mythology.
    Now however everyone has been collecting soldiery gear since day 1 of the patch that implemented it and without anything else to spend it on gear up a lot faster.

    By the time CT2 is released a lot of people are most likely already spending soldiery on their secondary jobs.



    If it's for the first, second time and third, maybe.
    But noone's going to run content countless of times if there's absolutely nothing to gain from it.
    That's a great point, but new things may come in Patch 2.3 that require Soldiery tomes, like the next upgrade of our Relic Weapons. I guess the next part of my argument would depend on how many level 50s the majority of players have, but CT would still be a great option if you have more than 3 Alt Jobs. iLv 100 seems like a good bet, and 95 would definitely not be a good incentive for people. Maybe the new CT will have the chance of rare unidentified allagan drops, which will make people keep doing it. iLv 105 still seems much too high for me as CT rewards.
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  6. #46
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    Hopefully it's i100 at least. Some of the weathered gear pieces have horrible stats on them (looking at you, suit of Astrum mail) and a decent alternative to spending millions on crafted gear and materia to us folks that won't be getting into SCoB any time soon would be nice.
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    As long as they don't do the same mistake again, putting CT2 lower than T9.. to get iLvl100 gear..

    We need harder and harder content; then Echo buff 50% 2 weeks after (it will be old content by then right? ) so the rest can catch up..

    *If CT2 is hard, hmm.. yes please make it FC 24-man, else the ragers and quitters will abound like what MASSIVE should be in MMO

    For those that says they want to catch up and lower the difficulty: if you are lvl 50 and are at the endgame content, what about the ones on PS4 that just bought the game, and are still under lvl 20..

    It is that the game is hard, or you lack some tips? I am sure Forumers will jump to help you ^^

    If we see it this way, New players will have echo 100% when they will reach endgame. Fun times for those who like a game with a challenge.. (but you can remove the Echo.. really? Wonder who actually removes it..)

    The game is awesome, challenging and beautiful. It's the people that makes the rest. Stay on the forums and let's start a LS here, so if CT2 is too hard, we will setup a Deutch** CT2 and all login at the same time, we got this! /cheer

    **Deutch has been used here with the assumption no one will think of using it, to give better chance for everyone to get into the same instance (French could work too )
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    SE - When will you consider hard workers (crafters) to be able to undergo a long atma-like quest (yes, you read me right) - so they could craft a purple Relic2, showing they can surpass Gerolt and the like, and - making it worthy of having lvled up to cap, giving a real sense of accomplishment?

    In other words: making the gear they craft 5 stars if you like, but to be on par (10 lvl less then?) with the latest dungeons/trials? (it would be a rarity on it's own, not everyone being able to reach the 5 stars requirement..)
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    CT2 is supposed to introduce 24 man raids, and it's supposed to be a good challenge. The question is, who's going to bother running 24 man FC or LS groups if the rewards aren't decent?

    Although I agree with you to some extent, playing a 24man FC only will enable us to work as a team, merging all skills of every members, giving tips to those who seems to have it rougher, so all of us can become automated machines.. (and ready for Turn 100 )
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  9. #49
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    I don't care what the ilvl is. I just want blm/smn to share cool looking armor that I can either glamour over the evenstar set or use to replace it. The latter would kind of suck given how much soldiery I've used, but I dislike the evenstar set that much. :P
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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    As long as they don't do the same mistake again, putting CT2 lower than T9.. to get iLvl100 gear..
    huh? CT2 will most certainly be lower than T9. CT is suppose to casual DF content that's easier than Coil. when you can DF 24 people, the skill level will obviously be lower which means the content will obviously be easier which should mean the reward will be not as good. CT2 will be easier than T6.

    i100 gear with a chance to drop Oil/Sands is the best you can hope for.
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