Suggestion, make light party content tank/dps/healer/support

[Susanoh]

Damage reduction was given to all roles, not just healing. Selene only has embrace (as eos) and no abilities that a healer (as a job healing) would use.
And quoting back in time we go...

I'm not denying that there are some supportive abilities that scholar has. Just that giving a phenomenal healing class some support abilities does not make a healing class a support class. FFXI's white mage could do the same things that selene could do (haste and silence) and no one ever considered it a support class because its primary role was still healing, just as scholar's primary role in a group in FFXIV is still healing.

[Shenandoah]

While I do understand the points from both sides, I gotta say, there's very little point in having both a WHM and a SCH in the 4 men content currently in the game unless SE change every single 4 men instance. Currently all this will do is changing scholar to summoner without the dps pet and fester.

And looking at the track record of 4-men instance so far, everyone would want SCH to dps anyway even if they fill in that support role, otherwise people will just prefer BRD over them due to higher dps, unless SE changes BRD and SCH to be similar somehow.

[Pooky_Pasha]

I didn't say anything about not using obey (read the whole conversation as I said I used obey). You're the fool who replied to use obey, when that does nothing for your embrace macro. A good scholar would have know to use steady or guard if they want full control of their embraces. Again you reply with using obey, but we are once again (for the third time I say this is a quote) talking about the original conversation of using EMBRACE. Which is not affected by obey. But you're a terrible scholar so you don't know that.

You never said anything about you using Obey before this, at least not in any replies to me, which is all I care about. You said something about guard once before (and in this reply):

...and unless your pet is on guard...

You said something about "unreliable pet actions":

...(crits, unreliable pet actions)...

, so I said Obey because that gives the user some control over what Eos/Selene does (even Embrace).

Steady gives you absolute control, which I basically said in what you quoted (ie-you don't want your fairy throwing out extra Embraces). Why someone would want to micro-manage to that extent, I don't know. It isn't really needed.
Guard gives you a little less control, but if the masters hit points go <90%, your pet will automatically cast Embrace on you.
Obey gives you even less control. If any party member's hit points go <90%, your pet will automatically cast Embrace on them if they are in range, prioritizing the master.
And guess what!!! A Physic/Embrace macro in any of those pet stances still works! If your pet isn't doing anything else, it forces your pet to cast Embrace on that target! Go Eos/Selene! And this is just as effective (actually more effective) as Cure II. Which was my original point waaaaay back when. And yes, you can control with varying degress.

Also, about the bolded part...I'm going to give props to myself because I must be a pretty good SCH.

The only ability not on Obey is Embrace.

which I said waaaay back on page 4 of this silly thread.
And you're still the fool who seriously suggested classifying the superior single target healer as support.

[Sapphic]

1. Read the OP.
2. Read the OP.
2. I don't see how worst of the 5 dps is one of the best.

How is BRD the worst? If you go pure numbers with parsers you only get part of it. Does it show how much damage is increased by using Foe Req? No. Does it show how much extra healing in mana intensive fights Ballad does? Things that a BRD contributes but as it doesnt show on parsers, they get ignored.

L2 not rely on parsers, they lie.

[Sapphic]

SCH is too weak, we need buffs. We are unable to be main healers, especially in the second coil.

We need AT LEAST double the amount of Aetherflow charges per minute, and Adloquium should be raised to at least 600 potency. Also, Succor needs to be on par with Medica in terms of raw healing.

SCHs are true healers. Adlo and succor are lower potency because of the shield. To raise them to the same potency as cure 2 and Medica would make them OP. The shield is part of the heal.

[TurnBased]

This is a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Have SE implement something like this once more jobs are introduced. Right now, all this will do is make queue times much longer.

[VallisRaine]

Just make the 4 man Dungeons 5 Man and up the difficulty a little Tank/Dps/Dps/Heal/Support.
Make 8 man Tank x2/heal x2/dps x2/support x2

[XNihili]

Wouldn't WAR fit the support status too ? They can debuff the mob so it can do less dmg or some other job doing more damage ?
So PLD would be the only tank

[Remilia_Nightfall]

SCHs are true healers. Adlo and succor are lower potency because of the shield. To raise them to the same potency as cure 2 and Medica would make them OP. The shield is part of the heal.

[Ryihito]

Scholar in Support role...lol. SCH healing isn't that BAD.

Support doesn't mean bad.

Gotta love how all the Scholar's are like "Nuuuuuuuuuuuuu".

Honestly what we need is Hybrid AND Support roles.

Scholar's and Warrior's can go in Hybrid.