PLD BiS (Post T9) - Widely Accepted vs. Optimized Crit

[PROBOUND]

Why would a tank prioritize Crit over flat damage increases?

I would think that Crit is the least of your stats

I'm not sure what you mean here. Your saying its not worth giving up -9 DET? Surely +57 crit has more value than 9 DET?

[PArcher]

I'm not sure what you mean here. Your saying its not worth giving up -9 DET? Surely +57 crit has more value than 9 DET?

Its not just 9 DET...its also SS you're losing. Which is also a flat DPS increase (since you *should* be constantly attacking your target to keep threat up...)

Contrary to popular belief, SS isn't terribly bad, and some jobs benefit from high SS greatly (WHM, BLM, PLD, MNK). PLD should also probably weigh SS more than most, since you can get more hits in a specific amount of time, whereas crit you are giving yourself a chance at more damage, and without insanely high Crit that chance is slim. PLD also have only one DoT, whereas classes with more/are heavily reliant on DoTs (SMN, DRG, BRD) will weigh SS less

[Lemon8or]

Contrary to popular belief, SS isn't terribly bad, and some jobs benefit from high SS greatly (WHM, BLM, PLD, MNK).

The bold part. What? Determination benefits way more than SS ever does for Monk. Even crit beats out SS. Build what you want OP. I think people are overestimating what 1 Parry would do for you.

[PArcher]

The bold part. What? Determination benefits way more than SS ever does for Monk. Even crit beats out SS. Build what you want OP. I think people are overestimating what 1 Parry would do for you.

I've actually looked up MNK stat weights...guess what? Crit and SS have the exact same weight.

So no, Crit build are not greater than SS builds for MNK, unless there is more Crit than SS available on key DET or Acc pieces (that part I did not look up)

Yes, DET is better (as it is for just about every class), but Crit is not better than SS for MNK


And that 1 Parry is negligible. No question. Crit is often given more weight than it has (like from your post) and SS too little.

[Lemon8or]

I've actually looked up MNK stat weights...guess what? Crit and SS have the exact same weight.

Actually no, Crit has a stats weight of 0.163 and SS has a stats weight of 0.157.

MNK:
WD 8.321
STR 1
DTR 0.329
CRT 0.163
SS 0.157

It's negligible but if given a choice between crit and SS, crit is the better way to go since SS creates TP problem, especially in long fights. That's what I meant in my statement, not saying crit is much better than SS like determination is.