This game is forcing me to speed run, more and more

[TomTom1968]

[...]PS. I know I could always play a tank, but that is seriously not my style of play, and don't wana be forced to tank either.

Believe me, this doesn't solve the problem at all. If people see a tank NOT doing mass pulls and speed running, the bitching starts. People expect tanks to be able to pull a zillion mobs without losing aggro or dying. If you have ever asked yourself why there are not more tanks, this is one of the reasons why. Tank must start at ilevel 90 and 1.000 hours of experience before he hits his 1st dungeon. If not, call him noob and tell to "l2play".

[Nekodar]

i assume everyone who hates speed runs are monks or under geared healers! just my assumption!

If i96 WHM (Weathered Daystar, Cleric's, Allagan, Animus) is under geared.... sure. Assume away.

Hating speedruns is different from not being capable of speedrunning.
I'm capable, and have done them, but I hate them because of the stress associated with them and because I've run into way too many tanks and dps that fails at it.

I'm playing to relax and have fun. I get enough stress at work.

[sylent09]

If i96 WHM (Weathered Daystar, Cleric's, Allagan, Animus) is under geared.... sure. Assume away.

Hating speedruns is different from not being capable of speedrunning.
I'm capable, and have done them, but I hate them because of the stress associated with them and because I've run into way too many tanks and dps that fails at it.

I'm playing to relax and have fun. I get enough stress at work.

The stress you say? If any video game stresses you out you shouldn't play games. I tank and have never felt stressed. It's stressful standing in a spot spamming cure 2?

[AngelusOfEorzea]

I play mnk, sch, war and smn. I do not mind speedruns. However, I would not mind grabbing all the treasure chests. Also, I think if you lock out the monkey ( most people do in Brayflox ) then you have no chance of getting the monkey minion. Other then that... people in this game are in a rush like their hair is on fire. lol I think it's funny as hell.

[Dimitrias]

Even with all the other ff games, I've always went at a steady pace. Grinded a lot in between areas. Enjoyed the whole story. Didn't rush through the CS's. Talked to all the npc's in the games. Even through multiple playthrough's I always played that way and tried to 100% those games. Never did, but always tried.

Even RE games, played um same way. That's how I've played all offline rpg's and other games all my life.

It's just the type of person I am, and speed running forces me to skip parts of the map, and cs's. I know you can watch all the CS's in the inn, but it doesn't feel the same. Just like being ported directly to a duneon, instead of jornying to it with your party, but that's a different topic.

Edit: Also during my prae run with the roulette yesterday, someone in the group said "This my first time" at the very beginning, and they still SR it anyways. Also I just started doing that roulette, and havn't done Prae in months. What happened with me was I forgot to click on the terminal and couldn't get the magitech armor on, so I went back but couldn't find it, plus mobs were still roming around up there. So I ended up just leaving Nothing at all was said at the part either, I'm surprised I was the only one that forgot to click on it. I have literally only done that dungeon 1 time before, but people just don't pay attention and assume everyones done it hundreds of times alrdy, but in my case that's not true.

Hopefully next time I run it, i'll remember to click on that thing, guss you just gota learn from your past mistakes like in RL.

[Alanon]

Also, I think if you lock out the monkey ( most people do in Brayflox ) then you have no chance of getting the monkey minion.

SLIGHTLY off topic, but can anyone confirm this? I'm somewhat certain that I have seen the minion drop after locking out the monkey, I'm just not positive. Can anyone confirm or deny????

[sheepysheepy]

What happened with me was I forgot to click on the terminal and couldn't get the magitech armor on, so I went back but couldn't find it, plus mobs were still roming around up there. So I ended up just leaving Nothing at all was said at the part either, I'm surprised I was the only one that forgot to click on it. I have literally only done that dungeon 1 time before, but people just don't pay attention and assume everyones done it hundreds of times alrdy, but in my case that's not true.

unfortunately newbies are now the minority, and any community that runs itself democratically goes with the majority, if the majority speedrun, then the majority of players are happy speedrunning and businesses do well to try and keep majorities happy

[Kret]

I really don't understand the anti speed runs. I've been here since launch and I gota say after running 30-45 min ak runs after the sac pulling was nerfed doing 12 min tops brayflox or even 15 min halitalis is so much more enjoyable.

I can't fathom why a person would want to drag out something they could finish fast and have time for other stuff... In game or out.

[Katchii]

I can't fathom why a person would want to drag out something they could finish fast and have time for other stuff... In game or out.

Agreed, however there can be a bit of a difference between a serious speed run and a run that just goes smoothly and quickly as far as attitude and expectations go. I'd much rather have a smooth and laid back 12-15 minute run than a pretty high strung, tense 8 minute run.

[Trespar]

SLIGHTLY off topic, but can anyone confirm this? I'm somewhat certain that I have seen the minion drop after locking out the monkey, I'm just not positive. Can anyone confirm or deny????

I think it's supposed to be a suggestion, to make people want to kill it instead of lock it out.

I personally think they should just remove the ability to lock mobs out.