PLD feels underwhelming lately

[kukurumei]

Well, I find it a bit hard to compare, for example, Overpower and Flash+CoS.
Or that I have no problems holding hate if using Storms Path/Storms Eye combos compared to Riot Blade spam.

I agree that survivability of both is about the same, but WAR does bring a bit more to the table in my opinion.

Absolutely false. If anything War is the crappier one.

In terms of content you have a 80/20 split of "need" for a PLD vs War. Aka. "we need a pld" vs " we want a war".

There are content that the strategy hinges on a PLD. There will alway be a spot for 1 PLD, Where a 2nd PLD doesn't hurt.

Abilities include:
Hollow ground <---- 1st and foremost "we need this for the content" T4 even with echo is still stupidly annoying without it. Can be done with a war now, but much easier with a pld.

Shield bash <---- chain stunning is still a staple of "we need a pld"

Cover <---- a distant 3rd but some content are much easier with this.

Basically
PLD/War <--- yes
PLD/PLD <--- It works
War/War <----ewwwwwwwwwww

[Codek]

Absolutely false. If anything War is the crappier one.

In terms of content you have a 80/20 split of "need" for a PLD vs War. Aka. "we need a pld" vs " we want a war".

There are content that the strategy hinges on a PLD. There will alway be a spot for 1 PLD, Where a 2nd PLD doesn't hurt.

Abilities include:
Hollow ground <---- 1st and foremost "we need this for the content" T4 even with echo is still stupidly annoying without it. Can be done with a war now, but much easier with a pld.

Shield bash <---- chain stunning is still a staple of "we need a pld"

Cover <---- a distant 3rd but some content are much easier with this.

Basically
PLD/War <--- yes
PLD/PLD <--- It works
War/War <----ewwwwwwwwwww

Meh, that kinda was the case but I haven't seen anything in the Second Coil has yet to scream "PAL needed!" (Please correct me if I'm wrong, haven't looked at t8 or t9 yet). Plus, as the echo buff keeps increasing in the first Coil, you can do basically what ever you want for kills there. Might as well go Drg/War or Drg/Pal just to clear the fights quickly.

I can't imagine a group turning down a Warrior in hopes of finding a Paladin to start a fight. It's hard enough to find tanks as is. The idea that any fight hinges on the Paladin toolkit is archaic at this stage of the game.

[kukurumei]

Meh, that kinda was the case but I haven't seen anything in the Second Coil has yet to scream "PAL needed!" (Please correct me if I'm wrong, haven't looked at t8 or t9 yet). Plus, as the echo buff keeps increasing in the first Coil, you can do basically what ever you want for kills there. Might as well go Drg/War or Drg/Pal just to clear the fights quickly.

I can't imagine a group turning down a Warrior in hopes of finding a Paladin to start a fight. It's hard enough to find tanks as is. The idea that any fight hinges on the Paladin toolkit is archaic at this stage of the game.

Levi doesn't leave town without a pld for chain stunning that's 2.2
T6 even then you want a cover for bees unless you have a really veteran group. And hollow ground for super slug if I remember right in worse case.

And most single tank runs are still with a pld in old coil. A war is amazingly above and beyond for single tank runs for most groups. No one wants that, just go with a pld.

There's just almost never a time you don't want a PLD in end game. Can't say that with a war.

[Umbeliel]

Levi doesn't leave town without a pld for chain stunning that's 2.2
T6 even then you want a cover for bees unless you have a really veteran group. And hollow ground for super slug if I remember right in worse case.

And most single tank runs are still with a pld in old coil. A war is amazingly above and beyond for single tank runs for most groups. No one wants that, just go with a pld.

There's just almost never a time you don't want a PLD in end game. Can't say that with a war.

Quoting for emphasis and addition: with the exceptions of AoE enmity and in stance dps, there is absolutely nothing a paladin can do that a Warrior can't. The only point of having a Warrior in your group is Storm's path and absolutely nothing else.

[Feylie]

Absolutely false. If anything War is the crappier one.

In terms of content you have a 80/20 split of "need" for a PLD vs War. Aka. "we need a pld" vs " we want a war".

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