Healing Turn 8 Question as SCH

[neizero]

I have used selene for every progression fight. Simply put, the dps boost outweights anything Eos can bring to the table. Encounters generally don't require min-maxing your HPS, but rather learn when to heal and how to be more efficient.

[Menae]

I have used selene for every progression fight. Simply put, the dps boost outweights anything Eos can bring to the table. Encounters generally don't require min-maxing your HPS, but rather learn when to heal and how to be more efficient.

Well, it's not necessarily an overall DPS boost, depending on what classes you have. BLM is the only one that really gets a large benefit from Selene; everyone else (and the melee in particular) are hurting for resources anyway.

Where it IS a DPS boost is in short timer mechanics - aka kill this in 20-30 seconds or bad things happen. There it's a measureable and meaningful increase, because assuming you go in with enough resources, it increases the number of skills you can execute prior to the bad things. Over the duration of an entire fight, however, the limiting factor isn't the number of abilities you can fit in but rather the TP or MP required to fuel those abilities. If you are waiting on TP, Selene could give infinity skill speed and it wouldn't matter.

I'm not saying don't use Selene; but I am saying there are reasons she might not make as big an impact as you assume.

[Grotesque]

Well, it's not necessarily an overall DPS boost, depending on what classes you have. BLM is the only one that really gets a large benefit from Selene; everyone else (and the melee in particular) are hurting for resources anyway.
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I'm not saying don't use Selene; but I am saying there are reasons she might not make as big an impact as you assume.

We measured it yesterday at Turn 8. Selene is a huge DPS boost throughout the entire fight, although you burn TP a little bit faster, the DDs can manage it and BRD plays a bit more TP song, but this doesn't hurt his DPS because he pulls more off as well in song-off times. So the theory about burning TP too fast and loosing DPS is wrong. The fight is doable with both fairies Simply take the fairy which compensates the bigger lack. Kill is kill, strategies differ and there is no ultimate solution. Selene pushed our group DPS by 170+-20.

[fuddlesworth]

Selene pushed our group DPS by 170+-20.

I'm curious what your group's total DPS was.

[Grotesque]

I'm curious what your group's total DPS was.

1700 with EOS, 1860 with Selene

With ppl getting 110 Weapons now, this will increase I think. And as you become more comfortable at the fight, you also can optimize the dps

[fuddlesworth]

1700 with EOS, 1860 with Selene

With ppl getting 110 Weapons now, this will increase I think. And as you become more comfortable at the fight, you also can optimize the dps

Is this with 5 DPS or at least with a warrior DPSing? 1700 is pretty low. Sounds like the DPS aren't pushing out enough. I can see why Selene would help in this case.

[Airikay]

1700 with EOS, 1860 with Selene

With ppl getting 110 Weapons now, this will increase I think. And as you become more comfortable at the fight, you also can optimize the dps

O.o Selene should only be increasing total DPS by like 2%, if you went up that much its for other reasons. More comfortable with fight, better CD and pot usage etc.

[Grotesque]

O.o Selene should only be increasing total DPS by like 2%, if you went up that much its for other reasons. More comfortable with fight, better CD and pot usage etc.

I don't know. We just stick to Eos for easier healing. DPS doesn't seem to be any problem, one-shotted it today. Next week with two more ppl getting 110 Weapon even more of a breeze once you have your personal tower rotation. Turn 9 is pure fun. Can't even be compared to any of the previous turns xD

Now it's time for some healer loot, not even saw one healer piece yet QQ

[Kaisha]

O.o Selene should only be increasing total DPS by like 2%, if you went up that much its for other reasons. More comfortable with fight, better CD and pot usage etc.

This.

Selene to help push DPS so can skip the last Dread Tower then swift summon Eos for the end of the fight

And this is what I do. Healing the fight until Allagan Field is a breeze if everyone is doing their job, but after that, having RouseDawn/Covenant handy for certain towers makes healing a heck of a lot more manageable.

Also, every healer should be meleeing the entire fight. There's really no excuse not to when you'll be within melee range. Some DPS is better than no DPS if you're not comfortable enough to throw on DoTs between towers/dreads where hardly any heals are required.