SMN - Why it is not a very interesting job and not a good upgrade from ACN

[Razard]

Ok...I'll bite...what POSSIBLE benefit could you glean from causing a localized storm? Or in Titan's case, rubble?

I'm going to take an educated guess based on previous posts.


"Because IIII want to be a special snowflake and when IIII enter a zone IIII want people to know about it! Because IIII wasn't hugged enough as a child!"

And so on.

[Akiza]

Ok...I'll bite...what POSSIBLE benefit could you glean from causing a localized storm? Or in Titan's case, rubble?

Ifrit- cause wildfires that causes proc damage and burning to all enemies in the local area.
Titan- rubble causes proc damage and heavy to all enemies in the local area
Garuda- summons twisters that proc damage and apply wind burn to all enemies in the local area

[Kirinichibon]

Ifrit- cause wildfires that causes proc damage and burning to all enemies in the local area.
Titan- rubble causes proc damage and heavy to all enemies in the local area
Garuda- summons twisters that proc damage and apply wind burn to all enemies in the local area

You've basically just described the enkindle abilities of each pet. They have crowd control and aoe abilities, too! I have a good solution for you:

1. Put Enkindle on a big button on your UI
2. Cut a .5-1" square bit of tape and write "Wildfire" or "Twisters" on it.
3. Put the tape over your Enkindle button.

BAM! Summoner is fixed. Can we talk about ideal rotations, BIS, and cooldown timing on boss fights now? You know, conversations that are useful.

[Razard]

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Yay!!! I was right!

There is so much wrong with this post it baffles the mind.

Firstly "In the local area"? So just having your pet out would cause you to aggro everything on the map? or 100 yalms around? What about dungeons? The summoner would basically be unplayable.

Also with the above in mind if you where in the area, and you're not dead yet, you'd be making other players angry by taking all their mobs for quests, fates, Hunting logs and Atma books. Just so you can feel like a special snowflake? I hope you never go into game design.

With my powers of clairvoyance I shall predict that she'll quote me, address none of the points in my post, then go on a rambling spiel on how the Summoner is "supposed" to be >_<.

[Blackcanary]

snowflake

Why do people keep using this word to be rude to people. Its got to be the rudest, idiotic word I've seen on the forums. Its like a sly way to attack someone.

[Razard]

Why do people keep using this word to be rude to people. Its got to be the rudest, idiotic word I've seen on the forums. Its like a sly way to attack someone.

On the contrary, old bean. I am, in fact being very direct in my meaning. That being a derogatory term for someone who wants to be unique.

As the old saying goes: Of course you're unique, just the same as everyone else.

I also think you missed the point of my post. It's rather clear Akiza wants Summoner to be something she can be a show off with, at the expense of everyone else.

[Wolf_Shay]

@Blackcanary: Trust me when I say this, Akiza has been at this trolling game for a long time...politeness and civility are wearing thinner than a pair of yoga pants two sizes too small...

[Lunavi]

Summoner needed to be rebalanced since October of last year but it got nerfed instead. The Summoner branching off of the Arcanist and getting dots were fine Square seemed to forget that the equip job would be a Summoner not a dot master. Fester and Tridisater should have been on the Arcanist and the Summoner should have gotten more pet buffs and spell commands also it should have been more on pet mechanics.

Add Summoner spells that commands the pet to cause aoe elemental damage and weather affects.

In case of SMN, wasn't a nerf a perfect rebalance? You're still highest DPS even after this nerf. Tbh I think another "rebalance" would be fine atm.

[Akiza]

To rebalance the Egis Square needs to make the Egis more like the Primals. Ifrit uses his element to make explosive charges to take you down. Titan is a massive tank and uses his element to crush you. Garuda uses here element to cut you down from all angles.
Ifrit Egi- remove radiant shield since it's a useless ability and add radiant plumes, eruption and a passive ability that adds burning to dots.
Titan Egi- add weight of the land and a passive ability that adds heavy to dots.
Garuda Egi- add summon twisters and a passive ability that adds wind burn to dots.

[Akiza]

You've basically just described the enkindle abilities of each pet. They have crowd control and aoe abilities, too! I have a good solution for you:

1. Put Enkindle on a big button on your UI
2. Cut a .5-1" square bit of tape and write "Wildfire" or "Twisters" on it.
3. Put the tape over your Enkindle button.

BAM! Summoner is fixed. Can we talk about ideal rotations, BIS, and cooldown timing on boss fights now? You know, conversations that are useful.

Ifrit Egi- does not do explosive charge with enkindle he does his signature attack
Garuda Egi- does not summon twisters she does aerial blast which does massive to target and all nearby enemies