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  1. #111
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    that the trouble actually, if people want to do them animus, all the myth they spend will be put into the book. but while doing this, you can only rely on drop for equip other class or get craft mats. it hurt a lot your progression and reduce what you can do.
    indeed, people can simply ignore the animus. but that will not solve the trouble. the cost for the book and the gain of myth per dungeon are simply a time sink for avoid people to get gears too fast.

    however, even this is not really the worst. since actually in term of progression we have only one way... it's raid...raid and raid. nothing outside this. the game have gone from two way to progress to only one... i think they really need to add content outside raid that are hard. more important, they must absolutly avoid to use Tomes for stuff like the quest book for the zodiac weapon. it's like put everything on one currency... it's really bad!

    finally, because of all i have said, people are becoming ass and rude... wanting to advance faster, because it will be always like this, people don't want to spend day and week for get stuff. then they will find and use the most efficient way to get this. leading to the speed run and some abuse.

    ps: i want to say that the farm of myth is not the cause of why the community get toxic... must more because of how mmorpg have evolve. we don't have anything to do, i means when you are geared... what you have to do? nothing. because you get this gear from the content, that normally must take time for be completed. they need to take some stuff from the fps genre, meaning add stuff to do that will not bring us stuff and gears. it's idiot, but we need to have challenge and fun outside the classical gears progression.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 05-08-2014 at 06:26 PM.

  2. #112
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Merle View Post
    I know it's been said like 500 times, but... couldn't use Party Finder to set up your own parties? i see a lot of PF telling "full run" on them, so it shouldn't be an issue.
    So you mean that people, who want the roulette bonus, should use the PF and should forget the roulette bonus, so other people, who only want the myth tomes from the 2 first bosses can still do it with the DF?

    Yes, sucks if you find this kind of idiots on Duty Roulette, but... "wasting the soldiery bonus"? you don't waste it until you complete the dungeon. If you don't complete it the bonus doesn't dissapear.
    Their time get wasted. They are forced to do the whole dungeon again for the roulette bonus because some people couldn't stay in the dungeon for 3 minutes longer.

    If you want to farm myths, do it in the PF where other people can join who also want to farm myths and nobody time get wasted.
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-08-2014 at 06:36 PM.

  3. #113
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    It's a pretty retarded move by those who ditch after 2nd boss, not just for the rest of the party. But themselves also!

    Ditch party get 30 minute debuff. In a premade SR party thats 3-4 speedruns on first 2 bosses. 150-200 myth. If it's a DPS. theres another que time that could be anything upto an hour that they could have spent SRing with a premade if they werent so lazy and start a PF.
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  4. #114
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    Qfox's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Qfox Rythm
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    Ragnarok
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    I Blame the dev. they making the last boss so useless as soon as you cap in soldiery. and the commendation thing most of people hit the achievement if they play tank/healer because everyone just give it to this 2 roles.

  5. 05-08-2014 07:03 PM

  6. #115
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    waldo's Avatar
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    Lilly Grace
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    As tank that uses party in progress LOTS praying for quick soldiery, I support other tanks ditching after 1st 2 bosses!

    Just kidding, sort of. Party in progress only button would be a wonderful thing though. Topic on hand, I wish people would be such dongs about this sort of thing. Burn the extra 5-10 minutes and clear the instance for the other 3 that are there!
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  7. #116
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    Mortechai's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Mortechai Voidwatcher
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 68
    I think an issue that goes hand in hand with the OP's issue is the one of players abandoning at the start of a dungeon they dont like upon entering and then requeueing right away to get another. As the system works right now, if you leave a dungeon immediately after entering, you dont get a cooldown. The cooldown comes when you leave the next dungeon within a certain amount of time. I feel the 30min lockout should be given to people who leave the dungeon immediately upon entering because they got one they didnt like, or whatever. It strands the other 3 players, or forces them to leave and requeue and wait possibly another 10-15mins.
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    I have within me the blood of legends!

  8. #117
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyar View Post
    Is "Toxic" the new "Entitled" these days?
    it's a word that has an ambiguous meaning like maturity
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  9. #118
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    Butta Stackz
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    Save the reporting for actual problems and don't bog down the true problem tickets with your whining.
    I couldnt have said this any better ^^! The "Toxicity" comes from these people who ruin the game for everyone crying and submitting bogus tickets that just waste even more of the GM's time. Grats guys! Your really making this a better world to play in.
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 05-08-2014 at 09:13 PM.

  10. #119
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Luckly, this never happened to me, but I'm amazed on how much selfish the community can be. DF is really the worst thing that can happen to a mmorpg, community-wise.
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  11. #120
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    Craiger's Avatar
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    If SE just added Myth tomes to the last boss this wouldn't be a problem...

    2 bosses takes 6-7 min, 3 bosses takes like 3-4 more mins, so if it gave 30 myths for example, all people would do the whole dungeon.

    If it takes you 6 min for 2 bosses and 9 mins for 3 for example, it would give you slightly more Myths/min than only doing 2 bosses, but the slight increase wouldn't really change anything by much... So I don't know why they haven't done it yet...

    When they increase the Myth gain in 2.28, I hope they add like 50 Myths on the last boss...
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