Summoner Fixing The Egis

[Akiza]

They could make it a proper pet class by making all of the attacks come from the pet and have the Arcanist/Summoner provide pet buffs, command the pet to perform special attacks and provide support damage.

[Kirinichibon]

They could make it a proper pet class by making all of the attacks come from the pet and have the Arcanist/Summoner provide pet buffs, command the pet to perform special attacks and provide support damage.

I don't want to play a class like this. This is nothing like any arcanist/summoner in FFXIV. This has never been fun in any game to me. You might want to play a different game.

[Razard]

I think It would have been better for them to make a new class for that DoT rather having it on the SMN.

OBJECTION!

Actually, one of the first Summoners of the series, Rydia, had access to the bio and venom line of spells. DoTs if you will. In fact, it was often more efficiant to use her as a Black mage.

Now with Blm having the staples of attack magic what is left? I mean what would you rather have them be? Mediocre healers with more mp and flashy but ineffectual pets which drain mp?

[Akiza]

OBJECTION!

Actually, one of the first Summoners of the series, Rydia, had access to the bio and venom line of spells. DoTs if you will. In fact, it was often more efficiant to use her as a Black mage.

Now with Blm having the staples of attack magic what is left? I mean what would you rather have them be? Mediocre healers with more mp and flashy but ineffectual pets which drain mp?

Having the Arcanist/Summoner have interesting pet mechanics instead of what we have now. Make it so when pets are summoned are attacks change based on what pet is out. We should be commanding the pet to perform a variety of special attacks, pet buffs and support.

[Exstal]

We should be commanding the pet to perform a variety of special attacks, pet buffs and support.

That class will be called Beast Master.

Please look forward to it.

[Wolf_Shay]

Having the Arcanist/Summoner have interesting pet mechanics instead of what we have now. Make it so when pets are summoned are attacks change based on what pet is out.

So you want what we already have?

[Hiroradius]

OBJECTION!

Actually, one of the first Summoners of the series, Rydia, had access to the bio and venom line of spells. DoTs if you will. In fact, it was often more efficiant to use her as a Black mage.

Now with Blm having the staples of attack magic what is left? I mean what would you rather have them be? Mediocre healers with more mp and flashy but ineffectual pets which drain mp?

Actually, the first summoner is from Final Fantasy 3, and they could only summon or swing their staff/rod (or use them in battle)

Rydia is the 2nd summoner, but she is more of a cross class summoner/blm.. and if you wonder why Palom was a true black mage, because if you do level him even in the original version he had access to every single black mage spell also, including Meteo, and all the remakes same.

And for the record, the only reason people keep bringing up, Summoners need to be fixed, is because everyone expected a Final Fantasy 11 summoner.. if you look you still see a "Where is my wyvern" threads keep popping up for dragoons too. There is nothing wrong with the class at all, could it be better, of course, but then again so could black mages and bards could be more support. Final Fantasy 11 was a different style mmo, a more multi-player needed style mmo, instead of the wow model which is more single player mmo which this follows. I would have loved if they brought back a Final Fantasy 11 part 2 and called it Final Fantasy 14, but it's just not the game design and style.

[Razard]

Actually, the first summoner is from Final Fantasy 3, and they could only summon or swing their staff/rod (or use them in battle)

Apparently your reading comprehension needs work. "One of the the First Summoners..." . And If you want to be Pedantic she was the first Summoner "Character" instead of just a class a character could use.

But then again, every instance of a Summoner "Character" in FF has been cross class with something else. Usually White Mage.

And by what Akiza keeps driveling on about She doesn't want this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOBxRZ6_ZnE
But this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9pAHD-P4M

p.s Just so you know, Rydia could learn all the black mage spells too.

[Akiza]

Apparently your reading comprehension needs work. "One of the the First Summoners..." . And If you want to be Pedantic she was the first Summoner "Character" instead of just a class a character could use.

But then again, every instance of a Summoner "Character" in FF has been cross class with something else. Usually White Mage.

And by what Akiza keeps driveling on about She doesn't want this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOBxRZ6_ZnE
But this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9pAHD-P4M

p.s Just so you know, Rydia could learn all the black mage spells too.

In Final Fantasy XI Summoner's didn't summon the True Avatar either they summoned a portion of the Avatar which was why our summons were 1/3 of their original size while in this game they just chopped up the Primal and gave a piece of it to every Summoner.

[i2agnarok]

Oh, goddammit. -_-
There are almost more Summoner threads (started by the same people) as Atma threads.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Egi-rebalance
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eep-popping-up
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...serious-revamp
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-are-released
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mmoner-Changes