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    Giving Egis even remotely potent dots would bring us back up to the level of dps we had with thunder available. They took thunder away because we're already the strongest.
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    I vote Egi DPS increase. Then we'll see 3 SMN raid teams. Who wouldn't want to see infinite dots on the boss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post


    Giving Egis even remotely potent dots would bring us back up to the level of dps we had with thunder available. They took thunder away because we're already the strongest.
    And you forget that they took bane away also, Its better SE made a new class of it rather take away spells and ability as of now they could have gave the DoT to any other class in the future and not take that away O.o
    I still believe most of the damage should come from the EGI side. Kind of pointless having egi for few extra damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros View Post
    What if se takes away egis then improves the dps and puts 2 skills from the egis to smn then smn lb its a ex primal comming and doing the main attack and depends on the lb level ok ok i can dream dont i?
    No that would destroy the Summoner I'd rather keep the Egis and make Summoning EX Primals an additional Summoner skill when the lvl cap us raised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post

    Also, simply adding extra attacks doesn't "fix the egis". You're just straight up buffing them when SMN (and by definition their egis) are already plenty strong. If you want to talk about "fixing" them, you need to realize that there will have to be trade offs, either by getting rid of something the SMN gets (and just SMN; you can't change the ACN without also changing SCH and SCH is incredibly well balanced) or something that the egi itself gets.
    There aren't going to be any changes to the Egis until the level cap is raised so it won't destroy balance because other classes will get new abilities and buffs anyways adding one new ability to the Egis will only increase damage by 20% which would put the Summoner back to where it was when it had thunder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I vote Egi DPS increase. Then we'll see 3 SMN raid teams. Who wouldn't want to see infinite dots on the boss?
    Doubtful even when we had thunder Raid Teams were not stacking Summoner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jediman View Post
    And you forget that they took bane away also, Its better SE made a new class of it rather take away spells and ability as of now they could have gave the DoT to any other class in the future and not take that away O.o
    I still believe most of the damage should come from the EGI side. Kind of pointless having egi for few extra damage.
    They never took bane away, all they did was phrase the ability description correctly, it would always bane 3 mobs, if anything they made it a bit better, by preventing dots to be replaced with a lower duration from using bane, and increasing the range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasdas View Post
    They never took bane away, all they did was phrase the ability description correctly, it would always bane 3 mobs, if anything they made it a bit better, by preventing dots to be replaced with a lower duration from using bane, and increasing the range.
    I think It would have been better for them to make a new class for that DoT rather having it on the SMN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Doubtful even when we had thunder Raid Teams were not stacking Summoner.
    People didn't know back then SMN was best DPS, so that's why. Now they know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jediman View Post
    And you forget that they took bane away also, Its better SE made a new class of it rather take away spells and ability as of now they could have gave the DoT to any other class in the future and not take that away O.o
    I still believe most of the damage should come from the EGI side. Kind of pointless having egi for few extra damage.
    Bane functions the same as it has since day 1. Infact it's been buffed with an increased radius.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jediman View Post
    I think It would have been better for them to make a new class for that DoT rather having it on the SMN.
    This will never happen. Never. Stop repeating it.
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