SMN - Why it is not a very interesting job and not a good upgrade from ACN

[Elladie]

Well I was talking about how much fun I was having with my shiny new SMN but ...

[Ardan]

You were talking about how awesome SMN is, despite some minor flaws.

... Can i say patootsies too?

Edit: Damn I got ninja'd.

[Vallhallix]

Better than BLM. Which is just a Thaum with Flare. You start as a thaum end as a blm doing the same rotations since low lvl.

[Jediman]

Tri-D has a place in T7, but that's about it. I would not argue with a shorter cast/longer CD on it in return for a bit more damage. I'm not saying there isn't room to clean up SMN, but I am arguing with the people who seem to think XI's SMN would work here. Or that somehow dots + an egi doesn't = SMN just because this is the first time it's happened in an FF.

No one asking for that you keep on bringing that crap yourself most smn here agree with the idea see thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-ALLOCATION%29

Most player don't like the changes like that I can't see a PLD with great sword just to tank mobs in groups.

But if you have played WoW its the same thing what they done here as warlock.

The problem is we prefer to have better animation for our egi

No one has come back to what I spoke about yet people still trolling on this thread about players from final fantasy XI wanting the same thing.

The answer is no they don't want the same thing what's in FFIX.

We want our class back just like any other Final fantasy series has been. They have made big changes to SMN compare to any other class thats still plays the same way.

[Exstal]

So you want a class that was good at the start, but garbage at the end of the game. Interesting.

[Kikosho]

We want our class back just like any other Final fantasy series has been.

You want a BLM with a prettier spell effects then?

[Kirinichibon]

You want a BLM with a prettier spell effects then?

Folks seem to just want their summons to appear every few minutes, the size of a house, and 1 shot everything for them.

[Jediman]

Folks seem to just want their summons to appear every few minutes, the size of a house, and 1 shot everything for them.

You want a BLM with a prettier spell effects then?

none of you read the thread properly your talking about odin 1 hour ability in final fantasy XI "1 shot everything for them"

Sorry to say this IS final fantasy XIV the game play is different. As of now smn has blm DoT bio bio 2 those have always been a BLM spells which they changed in this game while copying WoW warlock class

[SummonerSenah]

Folks seem to just want their summons to appear every few minutes, the size of a house, and 1 shot everything for them.

To me it seems like people expect a summoner to be like Yuna from FFX, and forget that FFX is a single player game. Balancing a summoner in MMOs is why summoner doesn't play like that. Personally I am fine with the FFXIV summoner. I guess the summons could stand to be flashier, but that's only an aesthetic thing since good summoners are already pretty high in DPS.

[Madoka]

Jedi will you stop tagging me in threads?