Can we have something for the sever firsts?

[Raenryong]

I don't know, being world first doesn't tell you much though. It just means you had a lot of time and you had a competent group of people.

It's still the greatest possible achievement in this game, and should be rewarded as such.

[Lafiele]

It's still the greatest possible achievement in this game, and should be rewarded as such.

Mmm I don't buy it. There are different kinds of achievements and this one is too game time dependent to get a reward as such. I would agree with an organized pvp or pve tourny that resulted in that reward. Also, whens the last game that made statues for every world first on new release content :/?

[Raenryong]

Mmm I don't buy it. There are different kinds of achievements and this one is too game time dependent to get a reward as such. I would agree with an organized pvp or pve tourny that resulted in that reward. Also, whens the last game that made statues for every world first on new release content :/?

There is no achievement in this game that compares to beating T9, let alone beating it first. All worthwhile rewards are going to be game time dependent to some degree unless you want them given out to just about everyone (which invalidates the point of it).

Organised PvP tournament I can agree with, and organised PvE in a vein similar to challenging groups to beat the Titan fight at one of the events last year.

I don't know any game which does this, but I think it's a great idea. Great achievements should be rewarded - that is the very nature of competition and games as a whole.

[Kuwagami]

It's still the greatest possible achievement in this game, and should be rewarded as such.

why ?

If the game was finished and if new releases of content would never happen again, why not ? But in MMOs, there will be new content forever (ideally), and older content will be nerfed to the ground.

As someone said, what is T5 or even T9 exactly ? In 2 years, the overgearing will be so high that you'll be able to stomp it without even knowing a single mechanic.


And if you look at it, world first in T9 (BG) already got a fame reward, aka a word from the producer..

[Raenryong]

why ?

If the game was finished and if new releases of content would never happen again, why not ? But in MMOs, there will be new content forever (ideally), and older content will be nerfed to the ground.

As someone said, what is T5 or even T9 exactly ? In 2 years, the overgearing will be so high that you'll be able to stomp it without even knowing a single mechanic.


And if you look at it, world first in T9 (BG) already got a fame reward, aka a word from the producer..

MMOs are also about forming an effective hall of fame for your achievements, and these items would stand as a testament to the achievements and abilities of the group who did it, long after the content is top tier.

[Aubog007]

MMOs are also about forming an effective hall of fame for your achievements, and these items would stand as a testament to the achievements and abilities of the group who did it, long after the content is top tier.

Ive played quite a bit of MMOs. I really havent seen ingame rewards for server firsts.

There was only one or two "rewards" one was by basically who can log in the fastest, and the other was who can spend more money.
Not everyone is on equal ground. Seeing achievements that are impossible to get actually discourage me from playing.

One game solved that problem by actually hiding the achievements after someone got it.

[Raenryong]

Not everyone is on equal ground. Seeing achievements that are impossible to get actually discourage me from playing.

One game solved that problem by actually hiding the achievements after someone got it.

Yet you're never going to get most achievements. Few people will be part of a pre-nerf T9 clear, I am sure. Were you part of a pre-nerf T5 clear? To expect all achievements to be achievable by everyone - to the very worst and most terrible of players - just completely undermines any sense of challenge or accomplishment in a game.

hmmm no ? An achievement is supposed to last. There is no meaning in such a thing for content downed to hell by nerfing and heavy overgearing over the time.

Which is why if you give reward(s) for clearing content when it is at its pinnacle...

All you can have is YOUR pride knowing you got it first (or so you think), without smashing it in other people's face with exclusive titles or anything like that.

Unless they implement something like this...

That said, given the extremely carebear and inept playerbase that this game seems to attract, they would never dare implement something like this in case they hurt some carebear's precious feelings.

[Moqi]

Yet you're never going to get most achievements. Few people will be part of a pre-nerf T9 clear, I am sure. Were you part of a pre-nerf T5 clear? To expect all achievements to be achievable by everyone - to the very worst and most terrible of players - just completely undermines any sense of challenge or accomplishment in a game.

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

[Raenryong]

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

What's the point of even having achievements if the hardest you get is faceroll stuff like "get a job to level 50!" or "complete a hard mode dungeon!"?

[SarcasmMisser]

This thread has convinced me, you absolutely do not need unique rewards for server firsts at all. Apparently even the mere existence of progression threads cause posters to get their panties in a twist and become vexed, an achievement or title is just overkill. I don't really understand how you can get irritated by others having fun through friendly competition, different strokes for different folks.

Only if your sense of accomplishment is tied to what other people are doing.

Do you get bothered by what other people consider fun?