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    Kitru Kitera
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastion View Post
    all i do is pay attention to the damage i take.....its astronomical compared to a pld with equal equipment.
    Yeah, it's 25% higher.... because you have 25% more hp and get healed for 20% more compared to a PLD.
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  2. #12
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    Valkyrie Lenneth
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Troll?
    U take more dmg cuz u have 25% more hp and healers heal u for 20%.
    I parry often so idk what u talking about.
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    Robin Locksley
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 50
    warrior is no where near getting weaker... if anything PLD is getting weaker... Yea Warriors are squishier than PLDs but with higher HP that is a moot point. The fact that as a lvl 50 warrior with probably lvl 93-95 gear by now, you are probably taking the same amount of damage as a lvl 80 something PLD back a few months ago, and on the same content the warrior is technically getting better....... and with that said, the warrior still has the ability to out DPS a PLD in every single facet...

    So yea, maybe a WAR may not be the ideal MT in the newest, and hardest challenges that require extreme mitigation which is really the PLD's shining moment, but in EX primals, Coil 1, and every duty roullette group, the warrior's DPS contribution (which is now greater due to the better gear requiring less emnity combo spamming), you push phases faster, and complete assignments way quicker.... which ultimately makes the Warrior the absolute best tank choice...

    I mean.... go speed run Brayflox HM as a Pld....... and have fun with flash+ convalensence....
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  4. #14
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    Zulu Kulu
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyHighDN View Post
    i have no idea what i'm talking about.
    indeed. so much misinformation in this post.
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    Mattiux Black
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Like above i parry with my WAR all the time XD
    Trust us dude, War can parry as a PLD the only difference is the block :P
    And stop complaining about the difference between paladin and warrior, in ALL end content if you need two tanks you need both like in the second coil to ensure a comfortable dps output. I change the job according to the necessary of my party and both can shine depending on situation.

    p.s: sorry for bad english, it isn't my native one :P
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    Jojorito Zazarito
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 60
    I can parry with my lv22 MRD, and usually a pretty good %

    Also, I parry with my Lv50 MIN all the time when I'm killing monsters near nodes. Not sure why you're so sure you never parry, are you perhaps upset by how little damage you mitigate? WAR isn't about mitigation, that's PLD.
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    Valmar Atheron
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    Ahhhemmmm Ahhemm hemmm hemm Ahhemmm.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    that chat spam
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    Timon Krynos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastion View Post
    all i do is pay attention to the damage i take.....its astronomical compared to a pld with equal equipment.
    Wut ?First of all it's normal for a PLD to take less damage,they have +20% damage reduction ALL THE TIME.War do not have that but when they pop their CD they actually tank better than a PLD because of the stronger incoming heals on them.
    Both can main tank ANY content atm and that's why having both is usually a great idea cause they complete each other really well.
    Even for T8 most people prefer the WAR cause of the stronger dps and the fact that he can clearly tank boss+dreadnaught without problem with his CD.
    No trust me Warrior is really fine he's may be a bit "better" than the PLD atm.
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  10. #20
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    C'alih Tia
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastion View Post
    PLD has less parry and parrys almost EVERY ATTACK due to his sheild that has actual block rate, i do not parry
    I think you're confusing parry and block. They are two completely different things, though they have pretty much the same effect afaik. You will see PLD (and GLA) get "blocked" now and then. That will never happen with WAR/MRD, of course, due to the lack of shield. The difference is that the block chance is calculated first. Then, if the hit isn't blocked, the parry chance is calculated. For WAR/MRD, since there's no chance to block, all hits are calculated with parry. The difference I notice with them is that with block I hear a distinct 'tink!' noise (and get shield swipe proc). I've never noticed that when parrying. So I tend to be more aware of my blocks than my parries. And, to be fair, blocks happen a lot more often as well, since I favour bucklers with the higher rate as opposed to block strength. Less RNG that way.
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