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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumiP View Post
    When a SCH is played bad, it's bad.
    Both the jobs branching off the Arcanist class seem to be like this. A bad SMN will absolutely cripple your group's DPS.

    On Balmung it seems healers are slightly more in demand than tanks, but I see requests for both of them all the time in PF groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Both the jobs branching off the Arcanist class seem to be like this. A bad SMN will absolutely cripple your group's DPS.

    On Balmung it seems healers are slightly more in demand than tanks, but I see requests for both of them all the time in PF groups.
    I would say arcanist has a high skill cap, but that would upset people who take that as me saying the opposite about their favorite jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumiP View Post
    I would say arcanist has a high skill cap, but that would upset people who take that as me saying the opposite about their favorite jobs.
    For DPS, DRG, MNK and SMN are all up there in terms of skill-cap, probably in that order. They each have their own way of doing things though, so it can be hard to say which is the hardest of the three. BLM and BRD...eh, low skill-caps compared to the others

    Heals, its not really comparable, as it relies more on whether you are a naturally reactive healer (WHM) or preventative healer (SCH). You can understand the theory for both, but if you are a natural preventative healer, you can struggle with WHM but find SCH almost boringly easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    if you are a natural preventative healer, you can struggle with WHM but find SCH almost boringly easy.
    I dunno, I played both, but chose SCH as main cause I found it and its mechanics far more interesting. WHM made me snooze.
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    Denevieve Nebilim
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumiP View Post
    I dunno, I played both, but chose SCH as main cause I found it and its mechanics far more interesting. WHM made me snooze.
    This is probably why there are so many SCH's here. A lo of people in this thread say they're rare but if I joins PF that had all heal roles selected I am almost guaranteed to get a SCH. -_-
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    Lillia Hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    This is probably why there are so many SCH's here. A lo of people in this thread say they're rare but if I joins PF that had all heal roles selected I am almost guaranteed to get a SCH. -_-
    Well there are two seperate data base centers that do not interact at all as far as df goes. so thats something to take into account and for pf it's determined just on your server. I'll admit on some days it does seem like all there are healer wise is schs though, but I do see days were they seem pretty rare.
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    Mei Mei
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    For DPS, DRG, MNK and SMN are all up there in terms of skill-cap, probably in that order. They each have their own way of doing things though, so it can be hard to say which is the hardest of the three. BLM and BRD...eh, low skill-caps compared to the others

    Heals, its not really comparable, as it relies more on whether you are a naturally reactive healer (WHM) or preventative healer (SCH). You can understand the theory for both, but if you are a natural preventative healer, you can struggle with WHM but find SCH almost boringly easy.
    NO way is a blm low on the skill totem poll. They can be as reliable and unreliable as any other class. Same with Brd. While brd does bottom out, good bards are darn good bard. darn good.

    A lot of unsatisfied blms switch to smn only to be similar unsatisfied just the same. I don't believe any of this elitist "high skill cap" nonesense, because every job contributes just as hard and push just as high with every attempt at content.

    There is always going to be ways to optimize your approach every time you do content on that class.

    Least played it's hard to say for pf/df because people switch jobs to whatever is the fastest to get a slot and run things.

    But in the end tanks are always lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    NO way is a blm low on the skill totem poll. They can be as reliable and unreliable as any other class. Same with Brd. While brd does bottom out, good bards are darn good bard. darn good.

    A lot of unsatisfied blms switch to smn only to be similar unsatisfied just the same. I don't believe any of this elitist "high skill cap" nonesense, because every job contributes just as hard and push just as high with every attempt at content.
    Completely agree, if ranged DPS was as easy as some people make out then there wouldn't be such a big difference between a good one and a bad one. In reality though the difference is pretty big, not just in terms of raw DPS but also how they use their utility spells like songs or E4E.

    As for least played job..... one of the tanks I guess, I see most jobs quite frequently though ranged DPS is more common than melee it seems.
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Both the jobs branching off the Arcanist class seem to be like this. A bad SMN will absolutely cripple your group's DPS.

    On Balmung it seems healers are slightly more in demand than tanks, but I see requests for both of them all the time in PF groups.
    I second that, PF groups in Balmung always fill up with DPS first.

    Tanks or Heals are always the least played and have the most demand. Another benefit are the non-existent wait times to queue for a dungeon, so it's alot faster to level a tank or healer as well.
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