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  1. #251
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Perhaps Square should just do another player poll asking if people want same sex marriage ingame. I'd give it a thumbs up!
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  2. #252
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnova View Post
    That sounds just like real marriage.
    As a male you do it for the "perks" (I'll let you decide what the perks are) but regret your decision when you realize all the perks were front loaded to sell you on the concept, your partner wants you to change FCs because they don't like your guild mates, and then they use a pandora potion soon after the ceremony changing the character design enough that the loss of "perks" doesn't really bother you.
    Most of the people in my FC are friends and the people that would be marrying one another, should there be more benefits than the surface "ha-ha-ha, I married you, now we'll never really have any reason to bring it up or do anything with it", we would probably just marry one another.

    That being said, perks could include things like, as stated by Elim, free 30min CD teleports to your partner, or perhaps +% exp when leveling in a party with partner, to more mundane things like joint private FC rooms/housing.

    I have to assume that they will be adding perks. For those people who are playing the game and take the marriage system in the game very seriously I am all for it (especially couples in real life). I have the hardest time with people who "hookup" in game and get "serious" and then fall out of touch or have the things you said happen... not that it matters. I'm all for legit marriages AND people doing it for the possible benefits.
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  3. #253
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    But see the real question is will people still play with that player if they were in a same sex marriage? The implication here is that people still think the same way they do irl even in a video game or evidently this thread. Imho Marriage is a bad idea, like sands through the hour glass so are the days of our lives....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylfer View Post
    I have to assume that they will be adding perks. For those people who are playing the game and take the marriage system in the game very seriously I am all for it (especially couples in real life). I have the hardest time with people who "hookup" in game and get "serious" and then fall out of touch or have the things you said happen... not that it matters. I'm all for legit marriages AND people doing it for the possible benefits.
    Adding perks to being married over and above something like a title is a very bad idea.

    Think of the drama potential when someone's RL partner finds out that you are married to someone in the game that they secretly hate you play because you are spending time in the game instead of with them.
    Good luck explaining that you only did it to get a free teleport to them so that you can play with your in-game spouse even more.
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  5. #255
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnova View Post
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    I think you're taking a fun and non serious feature and making way too much out of it... It's no different than housing, it's just side content.
    It's not like people who marry in game automatically vow to each other IRL. In game it will mostly be between normal friendships and not lovers (In fact I think the majority of married couples in game will actually won't be couples outside the game) Getting married will probably go like this:
    "omg let's marry!1"
    "kk! w0t do we get outta it?"
    "idk I heard the customes are cool and maybe some X Y Z"

    Not many will take it more serious than that and the ones who do (drama queens) will find their ways to make drama even without that system lol

    I'll probably marry the first funny person I meet lol
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    Last edited by Razzle; 05-01-2014 at 11:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    And then, you have the people who are asexual who will be completely overlooked by this design, and you have the polyamorous individuals who will feel shortchanged. I am neither asexual nor polyamorous, but I am well aware that people who fit into those categories and they are largely ignored or ridiculed for who they are.
    Asexualls can want to marry. They can still feel romantic love towards a person. I have an asexual friend and she would want to marry and even have children in the future. She is just simply not interested in the sexual aspect of a relationship.

    And I am polyamorous and I do not feel so offended by a mono marriage system. Sure, would be awesome if I could marry several people but I can see the problems in a system like that. I see infront of me how all of Eorzea is married to one another just because they can be and that the new epeen will be how many catgirls you have in your harem...
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    Last edited by Lunavi; 05-02-2014 at 12:02 AM.
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  7. #257
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnova View Post

    Think of the drama potential when someone's RL partner finds out that you are married to someone in the game that they secretly hate you play because you are spending time in the game instead of with them.
    Good luck explaining that you only did it to get a free teleport to them so that you can play with your in-game spouse even more.
    ...its a game. Any marriage in a game should not be taken seriously, actually anything in a game should not be taken seriously.
    There is nothing wrong with marrying a stranger in a game for marriage's perk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladeglory View Post
    "a very good reason to not allow"... Same Sex Marriage, or marriage at all?
    It's why some games don't have marriage at all. LOTRO was originally planned to have marriage relationships, but specifying that they be opposite-gender offended one group and not specifying that offended a different group. They ended up taking the whole thing out as being too controversial either way they did it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Caselia View Post
    it would be in SE"s best interest to scrap the word "marriage" as marriage is a practice of a religion that doesn't exist in Eorzea.
    Actually, marriage has been a legal contract since well before religions decided to usurp it.


    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    ... but unique to the game, and maybe attached to lore, will be great.
    If they're going to be lore-appropriate, Seeker of the Sun Miquo'te shouldn't be pairing off into couples. They're polygamous with a typical ratio of 10 to 50 females for each breeding male.


    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    Explains the amount of Yuri, Yaoi, Lolishoujo, Lolishota and more stuff I don't even know about - That they produce in their culture materials on daily basis lol
    I was a bit surprised it took so long for anyone to bring this up. It is true that the Japanese are very conservative in terms of what people actually do (or at least what they publicly admit to doing), but they aren't nearly as bothered by gay relationships in fiction as some western countries are. A video game is fiction. If this game were being produced exclusively for a domestic Japanese market, it's unlikely that SE would bother putting in rules to exclude same-sex in-game marriages.


    Quote Originally Posted by KhalidTheGreat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Changing the name wouldn't have made any difference in how it was perceived.
    It would have if they didn't mention the word marriage in the first place.
    If it involves pairing people off into lasting two-person relationships, and has any of the trappings of a wedding ceremony, then the players are going to be calling it "marriage" whether SE calls it that or not. To avoid this controvery, they'd have to eliminate any resemblence to marriage, but at that point it wouldn't be satisfying the people who wanted a marriage system in the game in the first place.


    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
    ive never in my life seen a straight person brag and nag abt them being straight, hell i never done it.
    You've never heard a straight man mention his wife or girlfriend, or heard a straight woman mention her husband or boyfriend? When a gay person does those things, they're regarded as bragging about thier orientation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Exactly. I'm hoping there will be perks to marrying, such being able to teleport to your partner.
    Any perks they add will just inflame this controversy even more. If they exclude people who have the same gender characters from having a title it's one thing. If they exclude people who have the same gender characters from being able to get meaningful in-game perks it's something more. So I really hope they don't add any perks to marriage until after they've eliminated the opposite-genders rule on who can get such perks.
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  9. #259
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    They should just make it a BFF system, to avoid this controversy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItzKris View Post
    ...its a game. Any marriage in a game should not be taken seriously, actually anything in a game should not be taken seriously.
    There is nothing wrong with marrying a stranger in a game for marriage's perk.
    I agree with you 100% but try telling the same thing to a non-game playing spouse.
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