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    this is why we can't have nice things.
    people always got to round about stuff and make things difficul and then say stuff like this just to stir the pot:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelfox View Post
    Please tell me they're not going to have gendered restrictions on who can get married. >_>

    Straight people flaunt their sexuality enough without having yet another thing they can hold over everyone else.
    this is completely incorrect. i mean this is so wrong that idk wtf youre even talking about. ive never in my life
    seen a straight person brag and nag abt them being straight, hell i never done it. way to generalize a whole group
    and be completely wrong. there are more gays trying to get married in rl, and have equal rights and stuff
    never seen a straight parade. im all in for gay rights 100% btw!
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    This will not end well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
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    Yes, there are more gay people that are TRYING to get married because they aren't allowed. This goes with what I was saying about straight people being "normal". One of my favorite comedians ever really annoyed me when he was saying that gay people holding hands in public is flaunting their sexuality. This is how real people look at things. Showing your sexuality is flaunting, when a gay person does it there is a problem, when straight people do it somehow it is normal. You can turn on movies, tv shows, read comics, books and you can have a chapter about some "dude" "chilling" and talking about "hot chicks" and nothing matters. Have a gay guy talk about how hot another man is an all of a sudden it is a news story. I remember not long ago a cable company in America refused to air a new sitcom because it had a gay marriage in it. Same thing with this topic. Marriage in game. Awesome. Gay marriage in game? Well we don't want to be controversial..

    Why is that controversial? Because of bigotry. Its a double standard. You don't see straight people "flaunting" because you consider it normal. But if you put yourself in the shoes of a gay person can you really say there isn't some resemblance to "flaunting" happening? It might not be on purpose, it might not be malicious, but it does happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
    this is why we can't have nice things.
    people always got to round about stuff and make things difficul and then say stuff like this just to stir the pot:


    this is completely incorrect. i mean this is so wrong that idk wtf youre even talking about. ive never in my life
    seen a straight person brag and nag abt them being straight, hell i never done it. way to generalize a whole group
    and be completely wrong. there are more gays trying to get married in rl, and have equal rights and stuff
    never seen a straight parade. im all in for gay rights 100% btw!
    http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/...e-they-are-gay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tule View Post
    But if you put yourself in the shoes of a gay person can you really say there isn't some resemblance to "flaunting" happening? It might not be on purpose, it might not be malicious, but it does happen.
    So you are saying the answer to all of the controversy is just have everyone bedazzle their Nikes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tule View Post
    Why is that controversial? Because of bigotry. Its a double standard. You don't see straight people "flaunting" because you consider it normal. But if you put yourself in the shoes of a gay person can you really say there isn't some resemblance to "flaunting" happening? It might not be on purpose, it might not be malicious, but it does happen.
    Two people holding hands or sharing a light kiss, regardless of genders, is fine.

    When two people make a show of it, full-on make-out session in public, going up to people and saying how much they're in love, throwing it in your face, etc, IS flaunting it. And what sexuality do I see doing that more often? No, its not because its "abnormal" (I have gay friends AND relatives, and do support equality, so don't go crying to me about being a bigot), many gay people feel the need to "show off" as a way of "rebellion" because some people see them as "wrong"...and fail to realize it just ticks most people off (even some of their supporters) because they don't want to see it from anyone.

    I don't care what you do behind closed doors. I don't want to see anything more than small actions (holding hands, light kissing, hugs, etc) in public, from ANYONE. Keep it private, and if you can't be in public with your partner without being able to control yourself then stop going out in public with them. Again...that applies to everyone.

    Also...stop thinking that everyone is out to get you, that people are "attacking" you just because you're "different" when they just want you to stop throwing your sexual preferences in everyone's faces and making every little thing a political argument. Most people don't care. Its a a very good way to drive supporters from "support" to "indifference".
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    Last edited by PArcher; 05-01-2014 at 02:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
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    I see straight people holding hands, hugging, kissing all the time. I don't think I've ever seen gay people kiss in my entire life. Then again, I live in Texas. Then again, what I said about that cable company is true. That comedian making the comment and being supported that holding hands is flaunting is true. The fact that gay marriage in America is still an issue is real. The acts against gay people around the world is true. The fact that I have heard people call gay people or people they suspect as gay names is true. The aren't adding gay marriage in a game because people are still offended by what people do behind closed door is true. But you're right. Gay people are crazy and are making a much to do about nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tule View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen gay people kiss in my entire life. Then again, I live in Texas.
    This quote wins the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tule View Post
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    You say what I described doesn't happen? Go take a trip to NYC.

    And lol, I wouldn't go talking about the some parts of the world. Don't forget, in many places women are still little better than slaves, and heck, ARE slaves in places. At least you can hide what makes you "different" by *gasp* not showing off when you have to travel...
    As a woman, I don't dare go to certain places without company because its dangerous for a woman to be alone, even here in the USA.

    Like I said, if you can't control yourself in public with your partner (again, I don't care what your preference is), don't go out in public with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
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    I am not gay. But if I was I shouldn't be forced to hide it. And not hiding it isn't flaunting. I also never claimed that people don't do what you are describing. You however were making light of what happens to gay people. By claiming "Most people don't care". If MOST people didn't care this discussion wouldn't be happening because there would be gay marriage in the game. Or just, you know, marriage.
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