AOE stoneskin outside of combat

[JTribal]

I totally agree, spamming SS eight times after a wipe is really annoying.

[LexSunfire]

You didn't say they both erect barriers, you said that succor was aoe adloquium.

You can knock the condescending tone off. this is why I hate these forums. take everything out of context and try to prove "gotcha" moments. you posted a comment that the next step would be to make adloquium an aoe so everyone could have the barrier. I was merely saying that there is an aoe version of adolquium. the fact that the succor is a watered down aoe version of adolquium doesn't mean it's not an aoe version of adolquium. second, protect is an aoe spell even in combat. you are correct. all i'm saying is why not make SS like protect but only outside of combat? I don't understand why people are getting so upset and defensive about this proposition.

[KyahAlmasy]

It's just unnecessary to wait for the cast timer for every stoneskin before pulling. So much so that for Coil progression we don't even use it anymore because if we did it would turn 45 minutes worth of attempts in to almost 2 hours. At least in 1.0 we had that spell (Can't Remember what it was called.) That turned every spell into an AOE, so that you could just get it out of the way.

[Mcshiggs]

You can knock the condescending tone off. this is why I hate these forums. take everything out of context and try to prove "gotcha" moments. you posted a comment that the next step would be to make adloquium an aoe so everyone could have the barrier. I was merely saying that there is an aoe version of adolquium. the fact that the succor is a watered down aoe version of adolquium doesn't mean it's not an aoe version of adolquium. second, protect is an aoe spell even in combat. you are correct. all i'm saying is why not make SS like protect but only outside of combat? I don't understand why people are getting so upset and defensive about this proposition.

You should read my post, I said adloquium would need to be aoe so everyone can have the big shield, I am supposed to be able to magically interpret your words but you can't follow simple context clues? Also if you read any of my posts, I said that making it aoe out of combat would cause people to try to find ways to take advantage of it. If you still feel like sticking with the succor is just as good as an aoe adloquium would be, would you be ok with your aoe stoneskin, but it has 25%-50% potency based on crit chance, of your normal stoneskin?

[RyuDragnier]

It's just unnecessary to wait for the cast timer for every stoneskin before pulling. So much so that for Coil progression we don't even use it anymore because if we did it would turn 45 minutes worth of attempts in to almost 2 hours. At least in 1.0 we had that spell (Can't Remember what it was called.) That turned every spell into an AOE, so that you could just get it out of the way.

I'm not for making Stoneskin being AoE normally through a trait, but a skill that turns a spell into an AoE? I can see that as acceptable, especially if said skill had a 2-3 minute cooldown. It would also open up some pretty interesting combinations for use. Here's hoping it gets added eventually and can be cross-classed.

But then again, that would make every spellslinging class way too powerful unless only ONE class could get it...but from what I've seen, most don't even need it. Btw, why are you ONLY waiting for the WHM to cast Stoneskin to begin with? SCH can use it, and PAL can use it. All of you put it on people. Yes, it's not going to be as powerful as if a WHM did it, but one hit is going to destroy the Stoneskin anyway in a boss fight, so what's the point?

[LexSunfire]

You should read my post, I said adloquium would need to be aoe so everyone can have the big shield, I am supposed to be able to magically interpret your words but you can't follow simple context clues? Also if you read any of my posts, I said that making it aoe out of combat would cause people to try to find ways to take advantage of it. If you still feel like sticking with the succor is just as good as an aoe adloquium would be, would you be ok with your aoe stoneskin, but it has 25%-50% potency based on crit chance, of your normal stoneskin?

i'm sorry that I didn't realize "big shield" meant the crit doubled shield. I thought "big shield" meant aoe shield for everyone. obviously i'm just too dumb to understand what you meant by "big shield." sure, if aoe stoneskin could be used in combat, it would makes sense that the potency would be watered down like succor. people will try to find ways to take advantage of stoneskin if used as aoe outside of combat? okay fine. I doubt that your conclusory statement could be true. but assuming that it could be taken advantage of, there are other ways to minimize that. anyways, I'm done talking to you about this. you know when you see topics about how the ffxiv community is toxic, people like you are why other people find the community toxic. you pull out the cat claws and have to prove you're right. you can't talk to people like a civilized human being, you have to try to rip their heads off. for that, you can get placed on my ignore list.

[Mcshiggs]

Rabble rabble rabble

Ok Bye bye.

[SevenHeavens]

bring back 1.0 Divine Veil

[AlrikRouge]

I support this idea. Should they come out with 10, 12, 14, or 16 man combat/instances/dungeons and you only have one WHM...to hell with buffs other than protect and use PLD and SCH stone skin instead. AoE outside of combat would be great.

[AlrikRouge]

Edit: Ignore my dumb, double post from my phone.....