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    [QUOTE=Naunet;2069681]This is a horrible decision. Personal housing should be available to everyone, regardless of level.[/QUOTE]

    Lvl 50 isn't hard to get, I doubt any non 50 will be able to afford it anyway. To make personal housing free to everyone they would have to limit it so much it wouldn't be worth it at all. If they did that we won't get it for another 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    RIFT did a marriage system better than any I've seen elsewhere. Buy the outfits, license, rings, you get a private instance for the event where only people you invite can come (prevents being harassed by morons), and a spot after with tables full of food to celebrate. Anyone can marry anyone, sex doesnt matter.

    SE can do something special here or they can play it safe and stick to "accepted norms" in Japan. Sadly, I fear they're gonna screw the Moogle on it. =(
    Agreed. Considering they've screwed up a lot of their fluff content in really random ways, my hopes are not very high.

    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Lvl 50 isn't hard to get, I doubt any non 50 will be able to afford it anyway. To make personal housing free to everyone they would have to limit it so much it wouldn't be worth it at all. If they did that we won't get it for another 2 years.
    I have a large number of alts I would like to get houses on for RP reasons but have pretty much zero desire to level them any further than they already are. I am 100% capable of transferring money to them so that they can buy their own house if they can't afford it on their own.

    Besides, if housing is more than 1 mil gil (and it shouldn't even come close to that), then SE has really f'ed up. They justified FC housing prices because multiple people were contributing. Personal housing should be maybe 100-500k tops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Besides, if housing is more than 1 mil gil (and it shouldn't even come close to that), then SE has really f'ed up. They justified FC housing prices because multiple people were contributing. Personal housing should be maybe 100-500k tops.
    Yoshi apparently thinks the average player is running around with 2 million gil. So expect it to be in the millions.
    I don't know what game he's monitoring...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IfritReborn View Post
    Yoshi apparently thinks the average player is running around with 2 million gil. So expect it to be in the millions.
    I don't know what game he's monitoring...
    You do realize they're not guessing on this stuff right?

    They have the servers... they can ask someone in the office "Hey, how much gil does the average player have?" and get an accurate number.

    Personally, without even trying and just selling stuff I pick up... I'm sitting on a little over six million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I have a large number of alts I would like to get houses on for RP reasons but have pretty much zero desire to level them any further than they already are. I am 100% capable of transferring money to them so that they can buy their own house if they can't afford it on their own.

    Besides, if housing is more than 1 mil gil (and it shouldn't even come close to that), then SE has really f'ed up. They justified FC housing prices because multiple people were contributing. Personal housing should be maybe 100-500k tops.
    Perfect example of a way to waste server space. I don't want to be in an empty neighborhood because houses were given away to every character and alt. Houses will be abandoned by players who rarely play and alts. If they feel like the current 15 housing wards stressed servers, can you imagine if they pretty much gave it to everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Perfect example of a way to waste server space. I don't want to be in an empty neighborhood because houses were given away to every character and alt. Houses will be abandoned by players who rarely play and alts. If they feel like the current 15 housing wards stressed servers, can you imagine if they pretty much gave it to everyone?
    If their infrastructure is really that shitty, perhaps I should consider taking my money elsewhere to a game that actually provides both accessible housing and a great deal of housing upgrades to work towards.

    Limiting fluff content is really unacceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    If their infrastructure is really that shitty, perhaps I should consider taking my money elsewhere to a game that actually provides both accessible housing and a great deal of housing upgrades to work towards.

    Limiting fluff content is really unacceptable.
    I rather them use money to put content in the game than worrying about that. Housing is just something to look at atm ( outside of gardening).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    If their infrastructure is really that shitty, perhaps I should consider taking my money elsewhere to a game that actually provides both accessible housing and a great deal of housing upgrades to work towards.

    Limiting fluff content is really unacceptable.
    If player housing and the design decisions behind player housing is truly that important to you, than I would honestly suggest just packing up right now and hitting the road. Not trying to be a jerk, but you are placing a massive amount of importance personally on a feature that is at best a small side project for most players and seems to be treated as such by the developers. Personally, I would love for housing to be expanded on to the level of the Sims myself, but I know that it never will be. The focus of this game is killing monsters for loot, and that will always take priority over things like housing from a developer standpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senfei View Post
    that will always take priority over things like housing from a developer standpoint.
    There's certain things taking priority over others and then there's just restricting content needlessly.

    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    You want them to go all out on fluff, instead of using their resources on primary content?
    I've played MMOs with nothing to do outside of running dungeons. They are not fun. Fluff content is content just as important as any other. Running dungeons day in and day out gets really old, really fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    There's certain things taking priority over others and then there's just restricting content needlessly.
    Needlessly? What lvl 10 character has any sizable amount of gil to purchase a house? An alt, that's who. As someone else pointed out, having neighbors is part of the fun of having a house. I personally would be upset if I purchased a personal home, only to find out that one guy with an army of alts bought up every other lot in my ward rendering it a complete ghostown. I understand you personally don't like it, but take a step away from what -you- want and perhaps look at the situation from the perspective of a potential owner of every other home in that ward.

    Also, this isn't a game where alts are really common or important. The developers aren't catering to your desire because not many people use alts for anything. You can do -everything- on one character, hence the lvl 50 limit since everyone who actually plays this game is guided safely and quickly to lvl 50 in no time. Seriously, if you just look at this logically you will see why these restrictions are in place and why they make sense.
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