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    Bard in Song: Melding Piety?

    Hey. Was just wondering if it would be possible to raise Bards MP regen to equal it's song MP usage by melding enough Piety on the new I90 crafted gear.
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    I think you can but I'd rather meld something else honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaname1304 View Post
    I think you can but I'd rather meld something else honestly.
    Yeah it would definitely gimp the Bards damage a little, but a permanent Foes would be pretty cool.
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    Comparing melded HQ to BiS 110 you would lose 8% of your DPS but gain around 1700 MP and possibly a permanent boost to your mages damage.

    Did some looking at it and you could boost your MP Regen to 74 per Tick, with the Bard song costing 80 MP per tick.

    @ 3700 MP you should be good for a solid 10 minutes.
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    Unless you are running something like 1 bard 3 magical dps it wouldn't be worth it to lower your dps for increased song duration. For the Second Coil of Bahamut turns 6\7 have dps limitations between the phases and lots of movement and positioning you would not gain a large benefit from it outside of a few quick phases that your current mana pool could support. The only turn I would see it being useful would be turn 8 if you ONLY ran one bard you might have a solid reasoning, once again if you are caster heavy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post
    Unless you are running something like 1 bard 3 magical dps it wouldn't be worth it to lower your dps for increased song duration. For the Second Coil of Bahamut turns 6\7 have dps limitations between the phases and lots of movement and positioning you would not gain a large benefit from it outside of a few quick phases that your current mana pool could support. The only turn I would see it being useful would be turn 8 if you ONLY ran one bard you might have a solid reasoning, once again if you are caster heavy.
    If what Judge_Xero said is correct, 8% loss vs a perma +15% for a single magical DPS is already way better. 2 mages = overkill.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Comparing melded HQ to BiS 110 you would lose 8% of your DPS but gain around 1700 MP and possibly a permanent boost to your mages damage.

    Did some looking at it and you could boost your MP Regen to 74 per Tick, with the Bard song costing 80 MP per tick.

    @ 3700 MP you should be good for a solid 10 minutes.
    Info on 1,700MP gain?

    I don't believe you can meld that much Piety into your gear. Stats not native to your job have a pretty low cap.

    To gain 1,700 MP you will need to meld in approximately 120 Piety which means an average of 20 Piety per i90 crafted piece.

    Due to it being a non native stat, I don't think you can meld 20 Piety per piece.
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Info on 1,700MP gain?

    I don't believe you can meld that much Piety into your gear. Stats not native to your job have a pretty low cap.

    To gain 1,700 MP you will need to meld in approximately 120 Piety which means an average of 20 Piety per i90 crafted piece.

    Due to it being a non native stat, I don't think you can meld 20 Piety per piece.
    You can. Your job have nothing to do with how the gears are stat. capped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    You can. Your job have nothing to do with how the gears are stat. capped.
    I'll try it tonight on my Saurian Tabard since it was replaced by Soldier gear.

    I was doubtful because I was trying to be funny with my WAR while leveling it, I remember I tried to meld in Piety to the accessories but it was restricted to +1 or +2 despite STR/VIT on the accessories were 4 or 5 points each.

    Similarly, for the sake of fun in 2.1 I tried to create a BLM that could "heal" for a fair amount with Physick (CT was terrible on my server, when I was playing BLM I had to compliment some healing with my BLM's Physick lol). I tried to meld in MND to my i70 crafted and I do recall I can't even meld in 10 points of MND into a piece. Can't recall the exact numbers, but 2 pieces of MND IV Materia would have exceeded the cap (according to memories).
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    Which i70 you're trying to meld Mind into? Astral ones? It's because the base stat. (INT / MND) of Astrals were already capped if it's the HQ version.
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