Zodiac Weapon quests's feedback to Yoshida (since you asked for it from your letter)

[Jim_Berry]

Yeah, before going easy mode, even the Relic quests in FFXI wasn't painful in my opinion. True, it was long, but the majn part of it was Dynamis. While farming to get the needed currency, there were other items you could get in the process.

In FFXIV, getting a high Fate count isn't exactly rewarding. I continue to max out my Seals and spend them on random stuff.

In my opinion, the Atma should be "Complete this dungeon, complete that dungeon", each giving an Atma in the chest at the end.

[Undeadfire]

Yeah, before going easy mode, even the Relic quests in FFXI wasn't painful in my opinion. True, it was long, but the majn part of it was Dynamis. While farming to get the needed currency, there were other items you could get in the process.

In FFXIV, getting a high Fate count isn't exactly rewarding. I continue to max out my Seals and spend them on random stuff.

In my opinion, the Atma should be "Complete this dungeon, complete that dungeon", each giving an Atma in the chest at the end.

That would just to be too damned easy.

[Vesuvias]

That would just to be too damned easy.

does it really matter, as atma shouldnt be the hard part of the quest, in fact the books should be a hard enough grind, not the horrible rng wall, and then stupid amount of time farming tomes and then books.

[Undeadfire]

does it really matter, as atma shouldnt be the hard part of the quest, in fact the books should be a hard enough grind, not the horrible rng wall, and then stupid amount of time farming tomes and then books.

Getting the animus is perfectly fine, there's no need to change. Yeah getting an Atma is brutal, but complains go on, and on, and on. But SE has so far still done nothing for it. I'd rather work for my equipment, not handed out so easily.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Getting the animus is perfectly fine, there's no need to change. Yeah getting an Atma is brutal, but complains go on, and on, and on. But SE has so far still done nothing for it. I'd rather work for my equipment, not handed out so easily.

Well apparently it is a problem if Square said they had to delay the patch with Novus weapons due to people getting Animus too slowly.

[Vesuvias]

Getting the animus is perfectly fine, there's no need to change. Yeah getting an Atma is brutal, but complains go on, and on, and on. But SE has so far still done nothing for it. I'd rather work for my equipment, not handed out so easily.

There is a BIG difference between LUCK, and a grind you have to work through. to get your relic that was a grind you had to put some time and effort into. That i will do and enjoy even if i go splat against titan 100 times i dont care i know i will get it eventually. but with the rng based luck grind i can do 12 fates and get all the atma, but I can also grind every day for the next year and still never get all 12. Ill admit that is very unlucky but it is possible.

[Undeadfire]

There is a BIG difference between LUCK, and a grind you have to work through. to get your relic that was a grind you had to put some time and effort into. That i will do and enjoy even if i go splat against titan 100 times i dont care i know i will get it eventually. but with the rng based luck grind i can do 12 fates and get all the atma, but I can also grind every day for the next year and still never get all 12. Ill admit that is very unlucky but it is possible.

I meant on the Animus for working hard, getting a weapon that could be the strongest I rather work for. If the weapons going to beat High Allagan, it would have to be a lot tougher to obtain than normal. There is a system of balance required, Atma is a little too evil yes, but RNG has done more worse things in previous MMOs.

[Duuude007]

does it really matter, as atma shouldnt be the hard part of the quest, in fact the books should be a hard enough grind, not the horrible rng wall, and then stupid amount of time farming tomes and then books.

Yes. it does matter. If it were easy, like zenith was, then relics would never be granted comparable stats to high allaghan.

The plan is, they will. And they aren't skimping on the roadblocks to make the prospect difficult to achieve, and rightly so.

[Vesuvias]

Yes. it does matter. If it were easy, like zenith was, then relics would never be granted comparable stats to high allaghan.

The plan is, they will. And they aren't skimping on the roadblocks to make the prospect difficult to achieve, and rightly so.

this isnt DIFFICULT rng fate grind does not equal difficulty, it means that even if you have the skill, the time, and everything else, but luck you CANT get this part of the quest you are doomed to never be able to progress your relic. as it is there a people who have an animus weapon and an atma of another relic, and there are others who like myself have put in the same amount of time as the first person i mentioned who dont even have a an atma weapon because rng has been a major roadblock. this isnt the wall of titan hm this is pure luck lottery based results. good luck showing me where this quest is a test of skill....

[Logo]

Yeah, before going easy mode, even the Relic quests in FFXI wasn't painful in my opinion. True, it was long, but the majn part of it was Dynamis. While farming to get the needed currency, there were other items you could get in the process.

In FFXIV, getting a high Fate count isn't exactly rewarding. I continue to max out my Seals and spend them on random stuff.

In my opinion, the Atma should be "Complete this dungeon, complete that dungeon", each giving an Atma in the chest at the end.

Thats already in place for high level weapon.
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