2.25 in 9 days or less. Animus weapon owners, are you excited?

[Musashidon]

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there is no double standard.

titan ex wasn't part of the relic quest. while yes people couldn't beat titan ex they never had to they already had their i90 relic.

now if titan ex had become part of it and we had to do titan ex to get our relics to i90 yea it would be the same.

[Ooshima]

there is no double standard.

titan ex wasn't part of the relic quest. while yes people couldn't beat titan ex they never had to they already had their i90 relic.

now if titan ex had become part of it and we had to do titan ex to get our relics to i90 yea it would be the same.

Don't selectively reply, how about coil then. They didn't withhold 2nd coil despite most people doesn't even clear T5.

TBH I don't even see what's the problem. I've cleared T5 prior to that and in fact I welcome more people to clear and join us (those who cleared) with the new content.

It doesn't make sense to prohibit other people's progression to let the rest to play catch up.

And IMO, if people get to see how Novus looks like and the stats and what not, they might be motivated to do it as well if it triggers their desire to own them. Of course, whether or not the requirements for Novus is shitty like Animus quest line is another matter. What I'm concerned here is that SE doesn't withhold coil despite most people not even clearing T5 while they are withholding Novus because most people doesn't have an Animus.

[Doo]

It doesn't make sense to prohibit other people's progression to let the rest to play catch up.

It's always been like that really. This game never really lets you get too far ahead of everyone else. Just look at Mor Dhona, everyone wears the same gear. You can still get Soldiery gear even without clearing T5.

[Ooshima]

Well, that sucks then. I suppose if 2.25 doesn't come with some nerf and players decided to continue the boycott/not doing it and those who tries still either getting bad RNG or still unable to complete it 4 weeks later (which I personally speculate that's the time for 2.28, in line with 20% coil Echo), does this mean SE will consider holding back Novus again?

And seriously thou, how far/how much advantage will Novus get you? It won't even be some spectacular update since the most important thing about the whole questline is being able to customize the secondary stats, which will only be available in it's final form according to 2.2 Live Letter. Which will only happen in 2.3

*shrugs*

Clearing Titan Ex or T5 was not based on RNG/luck.

They did however nerf these to make them more accessible to the masses.

That's unrelated. The whole point is they proceeded with new progression content while easing older one for masses to catch up.

If you want to talk about skill, that makes it even more funny. Because Animus doesn't take skill, it just take time and a little of luck.

[scarebearz]

That's unrelated.

Yes, Titan Ex and T5 are unrelated, so why bring that up as a comparison?

[Ooshima]

Yes, Titan Ex and T5 are unrelated, so why bring that up as a comparison?

Not sure if you're trolling or miscom.

What I was comparing was Titan EX to Levi EX, where Levi EX is the new content for the Primal EX line. T6 was compared to T5, which is the new content for the Binding coil line. What I said was despite having a large chunk of people not completing both Primal EX and Binding Coil: Ragnarok content, new contents for both series are being released while the older contents are eased for the masses.

You were saying that Primal EX and Coil takes skill - which I said the skill talk was irrelevant because it would have made it even funnier - because Animus quest doesn't take skill. It takes time and a little of luck. And still I don't see anything related here be it skill or luck - my whole point is I don't see why SE has to stop other people's progression on Relic just because the masses doesn't have Animus yet. Which I call it double standard because they didn't do so for Coil and Primal EX. There's no dispute for that for the fact that they did release new contents for Primal EX and Coil series despite the masses not able to clear it yet.

The only good point that was raised to what I said was from Musashidon: which he says that Primal EX and Coil had a 3/6 months gap while the Animus questline existed for only 1 month now, which I could agree with him.

like i said it's not a double standard.

you say not everyone beat coil t5 but t6-9 is now out.

are you saying you can compare something that was given 6 months to something that was give 1?

yea it would be double standard if coil t6-9 was released 1 month after coil t1-5 and only BG had beaten it. but that's not what happened they wanted to extend the quest but decided against it because it was to early they hadn't even adjusted it. like t5 it got plenty of nerfs before t6 came out, now i am not saying atma and animus have to be nerfed alot because the next part comes out but to compare 1 month to 6 months is two different things.

when you have people that play maybe a couple hours a day or maybe 10 hours a week 6 months is alot more time then 1 month the difference in what a player can do is immense.

[scarebearz]

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Assume I misunderstood your previous post then sorry, as I can agree with most of what you just wrote